Are your three closest teammates a friend group, or a clique the rest of the roster feels shut out of?
JP Nerbun, Betsy Butterick, and Nate Sanderson dig into Level 4 leadership this week: the real difference between a clique and a close friend group, why almost no team builds a genuine culture of honest feedback, and Betsy's own story as a Division I captain who left a program midseason.
Whether you are trying to break up an unhealthy clique or support a player through a transfer decision, this conversation will change how you think about what it takes to lead a team.
Chapters(00:00) Intro3 Quotes | 2 Questions | 1 Resource
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"We make it out to be this perseverance: drive hard, sit at the end of the bench, put up with a tough coach, and get through it all. We glorify that to an extent that's probably not healthy."
- J.P. Nerbun
"We're really good at judging on the back end, and we're really bad at counting the cost on the front end."
- Nate Sanderson
"The quitting part was about being a good teammate to myself. That was the first time in my life I can remember putting myself before the team."
- Betsy Butterick
Q1: When was the last time you gave a teammate honest feedback even though it felt uncomfortable? What stopped you the times you didn't?
Q2: If you're in a tight group of friends on this team, are you making sure everyone else always has an open door in, too?
1 Resource to Go DeeperThe Culture Captain by JP Nerbun
This episode draws on the book's final chapter, leading from the bench, and the stories of athletes like Abby Wambach and Tom Brady who led without always starting. Comes with a free field guide.
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