Jess sits down with Kate Bowler, historian, pastor, and New York Times bestselling author, to explore parenting, faith, and religious deconstruction. They unpack the history of harsh discipline like sparing the rod, question the idea of biblical discipline, and wrestle with whether kids are inherently sinful. This compassionate conversation offers space to question long-held beliefs, understand the pain of inauthentic belonging, and discover a faith grounded in love and grace, not just rules.
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