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The conversation highlights the absence of structured initiation rituals that mark the transition from boyhood to manhood in today's society. The speakers discuss how leaving home for one's first job or college should serve as initiation-like experiences for boys, but there are no established societal rules or ceremonies for this purpose. This lack of formal recognition contributes to what is referred to as "depresculinity" in men today.
The speakers suggest that without clear permission to express themselves or discuss certain topics, men may feel uncertain about their rights and freedoms. They raise questions about whether men can openly address issues related to their merits and positive role in society and civilization, and acknowledge that women can be equally narcissistic in character and be destructive in their unique ways of communicating and behaving differently from men - in the workplace, the home and community.
The absence of initiation rituals creates ambiguity, leading to potential difficulties in navigating societal expectations and personal autonomy. The significance of involving not only fathers but also society as a whole, including elder males, is emphasized as part of traditional initiation practices.
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