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May 2023
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The Shades of Influence with Robin Dreek...

MATT BODNAR
About this episode

This week we’re diving into the two sides of the topic of influence. 

Surprisingly, there are two very different schools of thought on the best way to influence someone. But which style is more effective? What are the pros and cons of each of them? 

In order to get to the bottom of this debate, we brought in some incredible experts to make their cases on the topic. First, we’ll dig into the light side of the force of influence. You’ll hear from Robin Dreeke. 

Robin began his career in law enforcement in 1997 after serving in the United States Marine Corp. Robin has directed the behavior analysis program of a federal law enforcement agency and has received training and operational experience in social psychology and the science of relationship management. Robin is currently an agent of the FBI and the author of “It’s Not All About “Me”The Code of Trust and the newly released Sizing People Up

Then, representing the dark side of influence you'll hear from Chase Hughes, Chase Hughes is the founder of Ellipsis Behavior Laboratories and the amazon bestselling author of The Ellipsis Manual. Chase previously served in the US Navy as part of the correctional and prisoner management departments. Chase speaks on a variety of topics including brainwashing and attraction and frequently develops new programs for the US Government and members of anti-human-trafficking teams around the world. 

Both of these experts have INCREDIBLE backgrounds and some amazing stories as well. In the end, how you use these incredible powers is up to you. 

Which side are you on?

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