logo
episode-header-image
May 2023
55m 16s

381: The Process Of Grief Therapy: What ...

LAURA REAGAN, LCSW-C
About this episode

Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C brings back a replay of a past interview with a former hospice social worker and grief counselor who is living with a terminal illness. 

Last week's episode was the first in a multi-part series on grief which began with that conversation with Linda Thai, LMSW. Laura and Linda were unable to record the second conversation to be released this week as intended, so instead we'll hear this replay of a conversation from 2019 with Isabel Stenzel Byrnes, LCSW, MPH. 

In this conversation you'll hear how grief can illuminate trauma which was there waiting to be discovered; learn about some of the wisdom Isabel has gained through her experiences of grief and loss; and develop an understanding of how grief therapy, support groups, and writing can help with healing. While preparing this episode for replay, Laura learned that Isabel is currently living with cancer. You won't want to miss listening to this conversation with someone who has found meaning and purpose in her life despite being born with an illness that forced her to confront her own mortality as a young child. Isabel Stenzel Byrnes, LCSW, MPH shares her unique perspective on grief as someone who has survived a lifetime of living with a terminal chronic illness, and the loss of many important people in her life. This episode raises thought-provoking questions about acceptance, our cultural view of death in the West, and how we handle unpleasant emotions. 

Isabel is a licensed clinical social worker and bereavement counselor at Mission Hospice & Home Care, where she counsels children, teens and adults who have lost a loved one. She also leads writing through loss groups for those who are grieving, among other support groups. Isabel has experienced significant losses of her own and has lived with serious illness all of her life.  

As an author, documentarian, patient advocate and public speaker, Isabel has lectured around the country on topics such as living well with illness, grief and loss, end-of-life issues and organ donation, including a TEDx Stanford talk in 2014. 

Isabel’s website: http://www.thepoweroftwomovie.com/home/ 

Mission Hospice website: http://missionhospice.org 650-554-1000

Watch Isabel’s TEDx talk, “The Art of Saying Goodbye” here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkffpibi-Dc  

Dr. Katherine Shear’s Center for Complicated Grief at Columbia University: https://complicatedgrief.columbia.edu/about-us/our-team/ 

Podcast produced by Pete Bailey - https://petebailey.net/audio



Our Sponsors:
* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code CHAT for a great deal: https://happymammoth.com
* Check out Quince: https://quince.com/chat


Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Up next
Jun 26
488: The Power Of Community For Mind/Body/Spirit Connection with Eugene Ellis
Welcome back to `Therapy Chat! This week's guest, Eugene Ellis, is a UK-based therapist with a background in systems theory, play therapy and adoption work who identifies as a Buddhist and is helping people talk about race through his recent book, "Transforming Race Conversations ... Show More
55m 8s
Jun 18
487: Authenticity In Therapy With Dr. Sabrina Ndiaye
Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week's guest is Dr. Sabrina N'Diaye, a wise and deep clinician, author, teacher, speaker and leader. We had a heartfelt conversation about showing up authentically as a therapist. Not "trying to show up authentically," but living and working as ... Show More
56m 30s
Jun 9
486: Micro- + Macro- Dosing Psilocybin WithPam Conboy + Dr. Leah Linder
Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week I'm talking with Pam Conboy and Dr. Leah Linder, co-founders of Setas Seminary. Pam, whose background is in biology, was trained as a clinical laboratorian and is currently a doctoral student in naturopathic medicine. She is an IIN certifie ... Show More
1 h
Recommended Episodes
May 2022
The Science of Loss and Recovery | Mary-Frances O’Connor
New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers. --- Very few of us will live a life without loss.  As part of our Mental Health Reboot series in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, this week’s episod ... Show More
1h 6m
Jul 2022
Learning to Live After Loss
Time heals all wounds, so the saying goes. But that’s not always the case. Sometimes, when a loved one dies, it can feel like we’re stuck in an endless loop of pain. In this episode Dr. Sanjay Gupta speaks to Wendy Lichtenthal, Director of the Bereavement Clinic at Memorial Sloan ... Show More
34m 57s
Jun 2021
02: What Is Trauma?
Welcome back to Trauma Chat! Host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C, a Baltimore area clinical social worker, consultant and coach, defines what trauma is and what types of experiences may be considered traumatic for many people. She explains that negative experiences in childhood can be trau ... Show More
18m 24s
Aug 2021
09: Childhood Trauma, ACES & ABES
In this week's episode, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C, a trauma therapist, consultant and coach, talks about Childhood Trauma, Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACES) and Adverse Babyhood Experiences (ABES). In this episode you will hear Laura talk about:  The Adverse Childhood Expe ... Show More
18m 10s
Jul 2021
07: Complex PTSD
In this week's episode, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C, a trauma therapist, consultant and coach, talks about an alternative diagnosis which is not yet official in the US - Complex PTSD or C-PTSD. In this episode you will hear Laura talk about:  The additional criteria that go alo ... Show More
16m 23s
Apr 2022
Tales of Therapy—Alex. Part Two. The Lost Self.
Tales of Therapy Summary: Alex, a man in his mid-thirties, comes to therapy with psychosomatic symptoms and anxiety attacks, for which initially there appears to be no explanation. In the first phase of therapy, this often first involves finding words for his own feelings and sor ... Show More
42m 46s
Feb 2022
CC: Homecoming with Dr Thema Bryant
Dr. Thema Bryantis a clinical psychologist and president-elect of the American Psychological Association. She is also a professor of psychology at Pepperdine University and an ordained minister in the African Methodist Episcopal Church. With more than twenty years of experience i ... Show More
43m 5s
Feb 2024
S03E16 - Multiple Sclerosis (MS) - Caregiver - Sadika
In this heartfelt and insightful episode of our podcast, we explore the profound journey of Sadika, a dedicated caregiver and mother, navigating the complexities of caring for her daughter Rana, who lives with multiple sclerosis (MS). Sadika's story is a powerful testament to the ... Show More
24m 36s
Sep 2022
Dr Gabor Maté on Trauma, Illness and Healing in a Toxic Culture #294
Today I’m excited to welcome Dr Gabor Maté back to the podcast for a third time. Gabor is a fellow physician, author, speaker and friend who brings warmth and wisdom to every conversation we have. He’s a renowned expert on addiction, trauma, stress and childhood development – and ... Show More
2h 6m
Feb 2023
How Trauma Impacts Your Physical Health & How To Heal From It with Dr Bessel van der Kolk #336
CAUTION: This conversation contains themes of an adult nature and references to sexual assault. My guest today is someone who I’ve been wanting to speak to for a very long time. Dr Bessel van der Kolk is a professor of psychiatry at Boston University School of Medicine and Presid ... Show More
1h 42m