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Dec 2021
57m 48s

What Makes a Marketing Leader with Adri ...

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The opportunity to work from home may be taken for granted a bit more within the last year and a half, but for years Rev.com has been providing opportunities for tens of thousands to work from home. Adri Nowell the VP of Marketing at Rev, came to our studios in Austin, Texas to talk about what it means to her to see so many people able to work from home with Rev.  Adri’s experience as a marketer and a leader gives her a unique ability to serve both the Rev customer, as well as the tens of thousands of transcriptionists that Rev employs in a massive remote workforce. 

“We work with about 70,000 professionals who, some of which don't have great options for how to make money [because] they have an elderly parent or they're a primary caregiver for a child. When I connect with the Rev-ers in our community, it brings me so much joy. I've talked to mothers who have sick children in the hospital who are transcribing at the foot of a hospital bed. Being able to put your child first and be able to provide that type of love and compassion and care for your child while also being able to make a living. Those moments make me so proud.” 

Learning how Adri runs an ABM campaign, what skills she uses as a leader, and how she thinks about scaling her team will give you great insight into your own exciting growth and leadership. 

It was so great to speak with Adri in person about her experience in marketing and how they’re growing at Rev. Get inspired with Adri, up next here on Marketing Trends. 

Main Takeaways

  • The transition from Doer to Leader: When you’re in the trenches doing the actual work, your actual day-to-day responsibilities are different from those of the leadership of your marketing team. Transitioning to leadership isn’t for everyone; some really enjoy the work of making the campaigns happen. When you’re the leader you have to rely on the savvy of the marketers on your team and give them the tools that you know work and watch them make it happen! 
  • Account-Based Marketing Challenges: One of the biggest challenges of running a successful Account-Based Marketing or ABM campaign is getting the structure of the accounts right. Define what a segment is, define who your tier one in the funnel is; define what an account is. If you go through this legwork and really take the time to build a good foundation, you’ll have set yourself up for a great campaign. 
  • Working with Speed and Excellence as You Scale: When your company is experiencing massive growth it’s tempting to just start moving really fast and being okay with things breaking. If you can take a little extra time to make sure that you don’t go too fast and make needless mistakes, that is way more profitable in the long run.  You need to quickly automate whatever you can when you’re in a high-growth environment so that you can leave that task with confidence as you go to solve the next big problem. 

Key Quotes

“Now that we're going after [more] market segments the marketing responsibilities are going to shift around. We generally test everything that we can; learn quickly; fail quickly; fail cheaply, and for the things that work, invest in them. When you have that type of mindset, you get scrappy marketers that are willing to tackle new challenges, and test new channels or test new tactics.

“People get really nervous [about transitioning to leadership]. It's an emotional thing. It's a natural, emotional reaction. And Molly Graham actually describes this really well. And she talks about this concept, this emotional rollercoaster that people go through during these transition periods as she uses the metaphor of building a LEGO tower and then giving away your LEGO tower, which is so relevant. You have all these smart marketers that can jump in and they can tackle a challenge. And they built up their Lego tower and made it successful and then they have to hand their LEGO to the next person coming in. It can be really nerve-wracking. ‘What if someone breaks the LEGO tower? What if they build it back up in the wrong way, or maybe they don't expand upon it in the right way?’ And I've found her description of this to be really relevant and taken her advice to talk about it." 

“Marketing is never settled. You're never done in marketing. Consumer behaviors are always changing. You always want to go back and retest or test different variations. We measure [our success] by getting people to respond. ‘Are we getting them to the next action?’ Whether that's actually converting into a paying customer or taking the next step with us in their journey… and when new channels work, we expand them; when they don't, we abandon them. [We’re] constantly just exploring new outlets.”

“We work with about 70,000 professionals who, some of which don't have great options for how to make money [because] they have an elderly parent or they're a primary caregiver for a child. When I connect with the Rev-ers in our community, it brings me so much joy. I've talked to mothers who have sick children in the hospital who are transcribing at the foot of a hospital bed. Being able to put your child first and be able to provide that type of love and compassion and care for your child while also being able to make a living. Those moments make me so proud.” 

“With any launch, you start all the way at the timeframe of ‘What's the problem that you're trying to solve?’ My philosophy is to listen to the market. You should be talking to your customers; you should be talking to your prospects. You should be talking to people that want to do business with you should also be talking to people who don't want to do business with you.”

“The most important thing with account-based marketing is in how you structure the accounts that you want to go after. How do you define what a segment is? What is an account? Who are the customers? Who do you want to reach? What are the contexts within each of those accounts? Who goes into your tier one bucket? And then who's kind of your catch-all for what you want your one-to-one for your tier one accounts. You want your tier one accounts to receive more of a personalized experience, but you don't want to overdo it. If you're going so extreme that it feels forced, people are going to reject the marketing material. There's definitely a place for it, but it's really about finding the right balance.”

“Speed is tough and the thing that I've found the most difficult is balancing the speed at which you accelerate growth and operational excellence is it's not hard to go fast. It's hard to go fast and not break things. And so that is where we've found probably the biggest challenge is how can we continue to accelerate growth, but at the same time, establish a foundation that is going to scale. And so with marketing, that's incredibly important because you need the right operational pieces. It is acceptable for some period of time to do things manually, but you can't stay there. You have to put operational pieces in place so that you can scale. Finding the right balance is very challenging.”

Bio

Adri Nowell is VP of Marketing at Rev.com. In this role, she serves as the executive leader accountable for the strategy and execution of marketing programs across all segments - individual users (B2C), Enterprise/Mid-market (B2B), and developers. She provides leadership and management oversight across Product Marketing, Performance Marketing, Email Marketing, Demand Marketing, Content Marketing, Web, Brand, and Creative for the company.

Before joining Rev, Adri served as the Senior Director of Product Marketing at Bazaarvoice and before that as Director of Marketing at Volusion. Prior to that, Adri held a variety of roles at engineering technology provider National Instruments including Product Marketing Manager and Support Engineer. Adri began her career at the University of Oklahoma as a Software Developer in the Robotics Institute of Machine Learning. Adri holds a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from The University of Oklahoma, in Norman, OK.

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