Jonathan Rottenberg is an Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of South Florida where he’s the director of the mood and emotion laboratory. He’s also the author of the book, The Depths: The Evolutionary Origins of the Depression Epidemic“, which he and Eric have discussed before. In this interview, they discuss some of the studies and research he’s involved with specific to those who go on to flourish after having depression. Why do they? What can we learn from them? There’s hope and practical wisdom in this episode for you.

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In This Interview, Jonathan Rottenberg and I Discuss…

His book, The Depths: The Evolutionary Origins of the Depression Epidemic
Thriving after depression
The studies and research he’s involved with
People who thrive after depression
The destructive and recurring nature of depression
The typical low expectation for those with depression about life moving forward and how it should be different
What is mental “health”?
Psychological well being
Experiencing positive emotions
Experiencing negative emotions to a lesser degree
Feeling of balance in life
Having meaningful relationships
Feeling a sense of autonomy over your life
How happy should we expect to be?
Having elements of wellbeing amidst struggling with depression
The 3 things that seed a low mood: events, temperaments, and routines
Rumination
Ways that people can work with depression more skillfully
Having a different relationship with your negative thoughts
Having connections with others
Research on flourishing
How much control do we have over our state of flourishing?
That it’s never too late
There is hope
Our culture that idealizes euphoria
The role of our basic temperament
Factors of wellbeing other than emotion and mood
The organization he helped found, Depression Army
The interesting and transformative experience of depression
That his depression has been defanged and it doesn’t break the skin anymore

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Jonathan Rottenberg, Ph.D. on Depression