E944: Google has introduced the Universal Commerce Protocol (UCP), a system that allows merchants to send product data directly to Google so users can discover and buy products inside search, AI Mode, and Gemini - without ever visiting a website.
In this episode, we break down what UCP actually is, how agentic commerce works, and what this shift means for e-commerce SEO, CRO, brand authority, and margins.
Joining the discussion are Harpreet Singh, Gagan Ghotra, and David Quaid, three experienced SEOs with deep backgrounds in e-commerce, SaaS, B2B, and technical SEO. Together, we unpack what's real, what's overhyped, and what businesses should actually prepare for.
Topics covered in this episode:
- What Google's Universal Commerce Protocol (UCP) really does
- Buying products directly inside Google search, AI Mode, and Gemini
- Whether product pages, collection pages, and CRO still matter
- How rankings work when everyone submits the same product feed
- Trust issues with AI checkout and agent-driven purchasing
- Why average order value (AOV) may drop in an AI commerce world
- The impact on email capture, upsells, and owned customer relationships
- Margins, platform fees, and why merchants may opt out of agentic commerce
- Google vs OpenAI vs Shopify: who benefits financially
- Why brand authority may matter more than ever
- Backlinks, internal links, and how AI agents explore the web
- Discovery vs brand-aware searches in an AI-first environment
- The difference between "AI SEO" and actual SEO
- What CMOs are getting wrong about generative search
- Whether e-commerce SEO is ending - or just changing shape
This episode is essential listening for:
- E-commerce founders and operators
- SEOs and digital marketers
- CMOs evaluating "AI SEO" strategies
- Anyone trying to understand where search and commerce are heading
If you're thinking seriously about the future of search, AI shopping, and how people will buy online over the next decade, this conversation will help ground you in reality.
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00:00 Guest Introductions
01:06 Google's Universal Commerce Protocol (UCP) Explained
02:05 Impact of UCP on E-commerce SEO
03:55 Historical Context and Future Predictions
07:10 Financial Implications of AI and E-commerce
10:02 Trust and Consumer Behavior in AI-Driven Commerce
11:46 Challenges and Opportunities in Agentic E-commerce
16:11 The Role of Brand Marketing in AI E-commerce
25:49 Backlinks and Authority in the Age of AI
42:41 The Efficiency of ASCII Content
42:55 Challenges in Detecting AI Content
44:42 The Role of Thoughtful Prompts in AI
46:19 The Hype Around AI Tools
46:26 Google's Investment in AI and Data Centers
47:56 Authority and SEO Strategies
53:39 The Myth of Chunk Optimization
01:00:04 OpenAI's Advertising Strategy
01:07:18 Black Hat SEO Tactics for Valentine's Day
01:15:08 Networking for Initial Clients
01:16:13 AI SEO vs Traditional SEO for CMOs
01:19:09 The CMO's Dilemma: Allocating Budget to AI SEO
01:21:55 Understanding Query Fanout and Its Impact on SEO
01:25:02 The Relaunch of Digg and Its Implications for SEOs
01:36:16 The Rise of Grokipedia: A Competitor to Wikipedia
01:49:47 The Future of User-Generated Content and SEO
01:52:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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