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Oct 22
53m 7s

From Lawyer to Dancer & Speaker: Kim Bol...

Alice Draper
About this episode

In this episode, keynote speaker and former litigator Kim Bolourtchi joins Alice to unpack what happens when following all the rules still leaves you feeling hollow.

After building a high-powered legal career, Kim realized that the very traits that made her “successful” — discipline, control, and achievement — were also keeping her small. She opens up about the moment her two worlds collided: arguing before the Missouri Supreme Court when her husband revealed her secret life as a Latin dancer. What felt like career sabotage became the spark that changed everything.

Kim and Alice dive deep into the invisible rules we inherit — from childhood conditioning to workplace norms — and how these rules shape our sense of belonging, respectability, and self-worth. Kim shares her journey of strategic unruliness: identifying the beliefs that no longer serve you, learning to trust your own desires, and taking small, courageous steps toward a more authentic life.

From losing a national dance competition in a catsuit to redefining what success looks like beyond external validation, Kim’s story is a masterclass in breaking patterns without burning down your life.

This episode is for anyone who’s done everything “right” and still feels like something’s missing — anyone who’s ready to stop performing success and start embodying it.


Resources & Links:
📘 Strategic Unruliness: Break the Rules, Build What’s Next by Kim Bolourtchi
🌐 Take Kim’s “Which Rule Is Running Your Life?” quiz at kimbolourtchi.com
💬 Connect with Kim on LinkedIn


Chapters:
00:00 The Ache of Doing Everything Right
01:10 Arguing Before the Supreme Court—and Being Outed as a Dancer
06:20 Integrating the Parts of Yourself You’ve Hidden
10:45 The Rules We Inherit From Childhood
15:00 When People-Pleasing Stops Serving You
20:00 Taking Small Steps Toward Alignment
26:30 The Catsuit Story: Breaking Convention and Rediscovering Joy
33:00 The Keynote Flop That Taught Her Conviction
41:00 Resentment, Envy, and the Signals of Misalignment
47:00 Redefining Security and Success on Your Own Terms
50:00 Building a Strategically Unruly Life

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