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Why are you always exhausted, even when you sleep enough? Why does brain fog linger no matter what you try? In this episode of hol+, Dr. Taz MD sits down with Devi Brown, author, healer, and host of the Deeply Well podcast, to uncover the real reasons behind burnout, exhaustion, and chronic brain fog.
Devi reveals how unprocessed grief and trauma often disguise themselves as burnout and fatigue, why traditional wellness hacks don’t always work, and how reconnecting to your body, intuition, and five bodies of well-being (physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and community) can create lasting healing.
You’ll learn how to recognize the early signs of misalignment, why meditation can feel hard when trauma is involved, and how Devi’s own journey with autoimmune illness and exhaustion led her to holistic and spiritual healing. This conversation will help you rethink exhaustion—not as a weakness, but as your body’s wisdom calling you back into balance.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
• The hidden connection between burnout, grief, and brain fog
• Why women often push through exhaustion until illness sets in
• How trauma and early experiences can trigger autoimmune and chronic fatigue
• Practical steps to heal: intuition, symptom awareness, and holistic self-care
• Why quick fixes fail, and how to approach healing as lifelong work
• How to hold grief and joy together without shutting down
If you’re tired of feeling tired, this episode will show you a new way forward, rooted in honesty, presence, and wisdom.
Topics Covered:
• Burnout as grief and how to recognize it
• The five bodies of wellbeing, physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, community
• Trauma informed practice and why meditation can feel hard
• Gut health, lifestyle patterns, and nervous system support
• Intuition first, then method, how to sequence your healing
• The dance of grief and joy
• Honest presence, compassion, and daily practice
In this powerful conversation, Devi Brown unpacks the true nature of burnout, reframing it as unresolved grief and spiritual disconnection. Drawing from her own journey through chronic pain, misdiagnosis, and exhaustion, she highlights how trauma, societal expectations, and misguided wellness culture often mask deeper emotional wounds. Devi shares how she healed through intuition, holistic practices, compassionate presence, and embracing grief and joy as coexisting forces. This episode offers clarity, compassion, and a clear pathway toward authentic, aligned healing.
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About Devi Brown
Devi Brown is one of the most sought-after wellness educators and creative advisors in the country. Through her signature blend of advanced meditation, breath work, metaphysical philosophy, spiritual psychology, and holistic trauma-informed facilitation that she has developed through her own complex lived experience and multi-disciplinary education, Devi has touched the lives of countless students, including renown artists, athletes, and executives of global corporations. She served as the Chief Impact Officer of Chopra Global before founding her own company, Devi Brown Well-Being. She is currently the host of the leading spirituality podcast Deeply Well, is the author of Crystal Bliss and Living in Wisdom, and proudly serves on the board of directors at The Omega Institute for Holistic Studies. She lives in Los Angeles with her son.
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Host & Production Team
Host: Dr. Taz; Produced by Rainbow Creative (Executive Producer: Matthew Jones; Lead Producer: Lauren Feighan; Editors: Jeremiah Schultz and Patrick Edwards)
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Chapters:
00:00 Why Exhaustion and Brain Fog Won’t Go Away
02:47 Burnout, Martyrdom, and Self Worth
06:07 Grief and Joy, the Hidden Dance
10:47 Misdiagnosis and the Journey to Exhaustion
17:07 Trauma, Autoimmune Illness, and Chronic Fatigue
23:11 Why Wellness Needs Nuance and Safety
31:02 Quick Fix Myths vs Lifelong Healing
37:08 Intuition, Grief Practice, and Alignment
40:43 Spiritual Reconnection and Becoming Self Healing
55:26 Compassion, Presence, and Living in Wisdom