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Mar 2025
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The hidden power of introverts: How to t...

Lenny Rachitsky
About this episode

Susan Cain, author of the groundbreaking bestseller Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking, shares a guide for how introverts can thrive in the workplace without sacrificing their authentic selves. Drawing from her extensive research and personal experience, Cain offers a powerful reframing: success doesn’t require becoming more extroverted—it demands becoming more fully yourself.

What you’ll learn:

1. A simple definition of introversion and how it differs from shyness—plus a simple two-question test to determine where you fall on the spectrum

2. Five practical tactics introverts can use to be more successful in business while staying true to their natural temperament

3. How to handle challenging workplace scenarios like meetings dominated by loud voices and networking events that drain your energy

4. Specific strategies for managers and founders to create environments where introverted team members can contribute their best work

5. Practical techniques for saying no to energy-draining commitments

6. Strategies for managers to better support and leverage introverted team members

7. Practical advice for raising introverted children to help them develop confidence while honoring their natural temperament

8. Why seeking to become “more extroverted” is the wrong goal—and what to focus on instead to achieve professional success

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Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-hidden-power-of-introverts-susan-cain

Where to find Susan Cain:

• X: https://x.com/susancain

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susancain/

• Website: https://susancain.net/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susancainauthor/#

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/authorsusancain

• Substack: https://substack.com/@susancain

In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Susan Cain

(05:07) Understanding introversion

(08:55) The spectrum of introversion and extroversion

(13:27) Overcoming public speaking anxiety

(17:13) Learning to embrace your introverted self

(23:16) The power of leaning into your strengths

(24:36) Strategies for introverts to thrive in their career

(34:06) The importance of saying no

(38:35) What to do instead of networking

(41:59) Effective meeting participation for introverts

(47:31) Creating a productive work environment

(51:14) Raising an introverted child

(57:58) Finding the right career fit

(01:08:09) Lightning round and final thoughts

Referenced:

• The power of introverts: https://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_the_power_of_introverts

• The hidden power of sad songs and rainy days: https://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_and_min_kym_the_hidden_power_of_sad_songs_and_rainy_days

• Why bittersweet emotions underscore life’s beauty: https://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_why_bittersweet_emotions_underscore_life_s_beauty

• Desensitization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desensitization_(psychology)

• Malcolm Gladwell’s website: https://www.gladwellbooks.com/

• Warren Buffett on X: https://x.com/warrenbuffett

• Dale Carnegie speaking courses: https://www.dalecarnegie.com/en/presentation-skills-public-speaking-training

• Bill Gates on X: https://x.com/billgates

• Kathy Fish on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-fish-23b5777/

• Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/master-public-speaking-tristan-de-montebello

• Ultraspeaking: https://ultraspeaking.com/lenny/

• Rethinking the Extraverted Sales Ideal: The Ambivert Advantage: https://faculty.wharton.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Grant_PsychScience2013.pdf

• Cutco: https://www.cutco.com/

• Tim Ferriss’s post about his new book: https://x.com/tferriss/status/1878936085033791817

•  Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi

• Naval on X: https://x.com/naval

• On saying no: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-say-no

• Susan Cain—How to Overcome Fear and Embrace Creativity: https://tim.blog/2019/01/24/susan-cain/

• Zigging vs. zagging: How HubSpot built a $30B company | Dharmesh Shah (co-founder/CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-30-years-of-building

• Renee Wood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/recoale/

The Sopranos on Max: https://play.max.com/show/818c3d9d-1831-48a6-9583-0364a7f98453

The Talented Mr. Ripley on Prime Video: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Talented-Mr-Ripley/0HA0GNFQ4ZXYPDNJHQEENK2Q6Q

• Tugboat Institute: https://www.tugboatinstitute.com/

• Leonard Cohen quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/4484-there-is-a-crack-in-everything-that-s-how-the-light

Recommended books:

Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking: https://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Power-Introverts-World-Talking/dp/0307352153

Creativity: Flow and the Psychology of Discovery and Invention: https://www.amazon.com/Creativity-Flow-Psychology-Discovery-Invention/dp/0062283251

Quiet Power: The Secret Strengths of Introverted Kids: https://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Power-Secret-Strengths-Introverted/dp/0147509920

Gandhi: An Autobiography—The Story of My Experiments with Truth: https://www.amazon.com/Gandhi-Autobiography-Story-Experiments-Truth/dp/0807059099

• Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience: https://www.amazon.com/Flow-Psychology-Experience-Perennial-Classics/dp/0061339202

The Power of Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Myth-Joseph-Campbell/dp/0385418868/

Bittersweet: How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole: https://www.amazon.com/Bittersweet-Oprahs-Book-Club-Longing/dp/0451499794

Good Energy: The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Energy-Surprising-Connection-Metabolism/dp/0593712641

The 5 Types of Wealth: A Transformative Guide to Design Your Dream Life: https://www.amazon.com/Types-Wealth-Transformative-Guide-Design/dp/059372318X

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