Wellness doesn’t have to mean crystals and spirulina. Ella Mills, who’s been synonymous with wellness as the founder of deliciously ella for almost a decade, feels that it needs to be rebranded to encompass super simple principles like sleeping well and breathing calmly. In this chat, Fearne and Ella share stories of the people in their lives who keep them rational and grounded, as well as talking about why it’s probably healthy to accept that women can’t have it all.

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