In this incredibly personal and moving episode, we sit down with Teejay and Jon, the authors of the gentle children's book Clemence, to share the full, raw story of their daughter, Nadiya. Their journey began with an unexpected connection—a transatlantic online romance between Teejay in Australia and Jon in Canada—that quickly turned into a marriage grounded in a shared life and purpose.
With Teejay's extensive background in early childhood development and their experience fostering a young man with Down syndrome, they felt prepared when Nadiya was diagnosed with Trisomy 21 (Down syndrome) early in the pregnancy. However, Nadiya's complications were severe: a complete AVSD (Atrioventricular Septal Defect), a heart condition that made survival a constant battle.
Teejay and Jon open up about the grueling reality of Nadiya’s three-month, extended NICU stay. They speak candidly about the sheer exhaustion, the mental toll of the incessant alarms and machine noise, and the profound isolation of making life-and-death decisions under unimaginable pressure.
We explore the difficult but necessary truth of grieving alongside a partner who processes loss in a completely different way. Jon, an extrovert, sought normalcy and company, while Teejay, an introvert, needed space and quiet isolation. They explain how establishing mutual respect and seeking professional counseling were the key foundations that saved their marriage during this seismic time.
Finally, they share the powerful mission behind their book, Clemence. Written to honor Nadiya's memory, it provides a crucial tool for families, helping them talk to children about baby sibling loss. They reveal plans for a sequel to address the unique grief of the "neglected mourners"—the subsequent children born after a loss who never met their older sibling. This conversation is an essential listen for anyone in the NICU community, processing loss, or seeking resources for pediatric grief support.
Note: We recognize this episode addresses Infant and Pregnancy Loss Awareness. We stand with all families who have experienced loss and hope this conversation brings comfort and community.
| Time | Topic |
| 00:05:48 | Nadiya’s Diagnosis: Trisomy 21 and the severe complete AVSD Heart Condition. |
| 00:07:07 | The NICU Reality: Coping with the three-month extended stay and constant medical crisis. |
| 00:11:05 | Profound Kindness: The stranger's DoorDash order that helped them survive the crisis. |
| 00:13:28 | Nadiya's Spirit: Her curiosity, determination, and "badass" personality that charmed the nurses. |
| 00:22:10 | Grief in Marriage: Navigating different coping styles (Introvert vs. Extrovert) to stay together. |
| 00:24:25 | What Helps? The power of presence and what to say (and what NOT to say) to grieving parents. |
| 00:30:46 | A Continuing Legacy: Writing the sequel for Clemence to support subsequent siblings. |
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You can find their children's grief book, Clemence, available on [Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Indigo (Canada), and all major book retailers].
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