logo
episode-header-image
Sep 8
55m 9s

The Freeze and Flop Trauma Responses and...

Jennifer Wallace & Elisabeth Kristof
About this episode

Functional freeze is not laziness. It is a learned survival strategy that lets you function on the outside while feeling numb or shut down on the inside. In this episode of Trauma Rewired, Elisabeth Kristof and Jennifer Wallace unpack freeze, tonic immobility, and flop, and show how functional freeze can look like "getting by" while feeling numb inside.

They map the differences between freeze and burnout, explain why interoception goes offline, and share gentle, minimum-effective-dose practices to thaw safely and rebuild capacity.. 

You will learn how chronic stress blunts interoception, why your voice disappears in hard conversations, how shame loops keep the pattern in place, and why high performers often miss freeze because it hides behind perfectionism and people pleasing.

Topics Discussed in This Episode:

  • The freeze spectrum, acute freeze, tonic immobility, flop

  • Functional freeze vs burnout

  • Interoception and emotional numbness

  • Relationship patterns, shutdown, flat affect, rupture and repair

  • Language masking, shame loops, lost voice

  • High performers, people pleasing, perfectionism, hidden freeze

  • Whole system view, not only the vagus nerve

  • Minimum effective dose, breath, voice, tiny mobilizations

  • Resourcing and capacity building before big emotional work

  • From dissociation to embodiment and agency

🔗 Resources:

🎯 Start Here

FREE 2-week nervous system training: https://www.rewiretrial.com

Learn more about Neurosomatic Intelligence Coaching: https://www.neurosomaticintelligence.com

📺 Watch More Trauma Rewired Episodes

YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TraumaRewired

🤝 Connect with Us

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trauma.rewired

Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/761101225132846

🌱 Exclusive Offer

FREE 1 Year Supply of Vitamin D + 5 Travel Packs from Athletic Greens: https://www.drinkag1.com/rewired

Trauma Rewired podcast is intended to educate and inform but does not constitute medical, psychological or other professional advice or services. Always consult a qualified medical professional about your specific circumstances before making any decisions based on what you hear. We share our experiences, explore trauma, physical reactions, mental health and disease. If you become distressed by our content, please stop listening and seek professional support when needed. Do not continue to listen if the conversations are having a negative impact on your health and well-being. If you or someone you know is struggling with their mental health, or in mental health crisis and you are in the United States you can 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.
If someone's life is in danger, immediately call 911.

We do our best to stay current in research, but older episodes are always available. We don't warrant or guarantee that this podcast contains complete, accurate or up-to-date information. It's very important to talk to a medical professional about your individual needs, as we aren't responsible for any actions you take based on the information you hear in this podcast.

We invite guests onto the podcast. Please note that we don't verify the accuracy of their statements. Our organization does not endorse third-party content and the views of our guests do not necessarily represent the views of our organization. We talk about general neuro-science and nervous system health, but you are unique. These are conversations for a wide audience. They are general recommendations and you are always advised to seek personal care for your unique outputs, trauma and needs.

We are not doctors or licensed medical professionals. We are certified neuro-somatic practitioners and nervous system health/embodiment coaches. We are not your doctor or medical professional and do not know you and your unique nervous system. This podcast is not a replacement for working with a professional. The BrainBased.com site and Rewiretrail.com is a membership site for general nervous system health, somatic processing and stress processing. It is not a substitute for medical care or the appropriate solution for anyone in mental health crisis.

Any examples mentioned in this podcast are for illustration purposes only. If they are based on real events, names have been changed to protect the identities of those involved.

We've done our best to ensure our podcast respects the intellectual property rights of others, however if you have an issue with our content, please let us know by emailing us at traumarewired@gmail.com

All rights in our content are reserved

This episode was produced by ClipGrowth - Podcast Video Editing, SEO & YouTube Strategy
https://ClipGrowthAgency.com

Up next
Today
Are You Living In An Emotional Flashback Without Knowing It
<p dir="ltr">What if those sudden waves of fear, shame, or despair are not "too much," but your nervous system remembering something your mind cannot see yet?</p> <p dir="ltr">In this episode, co-hosts Elisabeth Kristof, founder of the Neurosomatic Intelligence framework and the ... Show More
56 m
Nov 17
5 Nervous-System Errors We Make Every Holiday
<p dir="ltr">What if your holiday stress wasn't about what's happening now—but about what your nervous system remembers?</p> <p dir="ltr">In this episode, co-hosts Elisabeth Kristof and Jennifer Wallace unpack the neuroscience of the holidays, exploring how sensory cues like song ... Show More
34m 47s
Nov 10
The Neuroscience of Grief: How the Brain Rewrites Safety and Self After Loss
What if grief isn't something to "get over," but a biological process that reshapes your sense of self, capacity, and connection? In this episode, co-hosts Elisabeth Kristof and Jennifer Wallace are joined by Piper Rose—founder of Shadowplay Coaching and Director of Operations an ... Show More
1h 5m
Recommended Episodes
Oct 3
Armoring - How Trauma Gets Embodied as Tension, Chronic Pain, Jumpiness or Emotional Walls
<p>When we understand how trauma shows up in the body, armoring is an important aspect. It includes muscle tension, chronic pain, and constant hypervigilance.</p> <p>Learn the skills to regulate your Emotions, join the membership: https://courses.therapyinanutshell.com/membership ... Show More
19m 33s
Aug 18
What Do I do if I am Heartbroken, Lost my Job or Had & Sudden Shocking News?
When your world turns upside down whether from a breakup, job loss, or sudden life-changing news it can feel impossible to cope. In this episode of The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Clinical Psychologist Dr Marianne Trent shares essential emotional first aid strategies for manag ... Show More
23m 3s
Apr 2020
Book: Trauma and Recovery, Part Two
<p>Dr. E shares about a book she discovered through a class with the ISSTD.  She explores what she has learned about Charcot, Janet, and Freud.  She gives the historical context of their rivalry, and how that later connected to research with veterans who had endured combat.  She ... Show More
55m 24s
Apr 2025
The C’s
<p>We share from <em>How It Works</em>.</p><p>“We didn’t cause it.  We can’t control it.  We can’t cure it.”  But we can contribute compassion.</p><p>Our website is <a href="https://systemspeakpodcast.com/">HERE:</a>  <a href="https://systemspeakpodcast.com/">System Speak Podcast ... Show More
21m 2s
Nov 7
Why do I feel so numb? Why can't I cry? Working through Emotional Numbing and Dissociation
<p>Emotional numbing and dissociation is often a response to trauma, grief or loss. You might feel empty, dead inside, or like you can't cry. Numbness is a common symptom of PTSD.</p> <p>Learn the skills to Regulate your Emotions, join the membership: <a href='https://courses.the ... Show More
15m 14s
Oct 2024
The Roadmap to Somatic Healing: Using Science to Heal in a Way That Works
<p>Did you know there is an order to which we heal? When we use the right tools, in the right order, our systems respond and it expedites our healing. Sarah will guide you through the somatic roadmap necessary to facilitate deep, lasting change, using somatic modalities that spea ... Show More
1h 5m
Oct 2024
Resolving Trauma to Step Into the Life Meant for You
<p>In this episode, Sarah explains how trauma is something we all experience to varying degrees and the impact it has on our lives. When we have yet to resolve past trauma, it actually gets stuck and stored in our bodies, meaning our system essentially thinks it is still happenin ... Show More
1h 12m
Mar 2025
1123: David Eagleman | Your Prehistoric Brain on Modern Problems
<p><strong>David Eagleman explains <em>why</em> counterfeiting works, <em>how</em> our empathy fails, <em>why</em> mind reading remains elusive, and <em>if</em> we'll ever upload our minds to computers.</strong></p> <strong>What We Discuss with David Eagleman:</strong> <ul> <li> ... Show More
1h 9m
Sep 5
How To Regulate Your Nervous System For Stress, Anxiety, And Trauma | Peter Levine
<p dir="ltr">The creator of <a href= "https://www.somaticexperiencing.com/about-peter">somatic experiencing</a> shows Dan how to heal trauma through the body.<br />  <br /> Peter A. Levine, Ph.D., has spent the past 50 years developing <a href="https://www.somaticexperiencing.com ... Show More
1h 10m
Feb 2025
471: Coming Together After Trauma – With Dr. Thomas Hubl
<p><span>Welcome back to Therapy Chat! Today I&#39;m bringing you a replay episode with </span>Dr. Thomas Hübl. </p><p>We talked about his work over more than 2 decades working with groups of survivors of war, oppression, genocide and other collective traumas about how healing ha ... Show More
47m 1s