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Aug 18
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A Little Happier: Mega-Star Taylor Swift...

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project
About this episode

Super-star musician Taylor Swift has three categories of imaginary pens that she uses to write her songs. Having the right tools helps to make work a joy—and in Taylor Swift’s case, even imaginary tools help to make work a joy.

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