logo
episode-header-image
Jul 9
1h 10m

Fromology (CHEESE) Part 1 with Kyra Jame...

ALIE WARD
About this episode

Soft. Hard. Fresh. Aged. Stinky. Illegal. Let’s talk cheese with Certified Cheese Professional (CCP) and Fromologist, Kyra James. We chat about proprietary bacterial slurries, basement caves, cheese knife etiquette, rind eating, vegetarian versus vegan cheeses, cheese history, different warm-blooded animals whose milk is used for cheese, American cheese side-eye, shoe deodorizers, and how to chat up a monger. 

And come back next week to learn more about plant-based cheese options, how to properly store cheese, the difference between orange and white cheddar, the grilled sandwich debate, DIY cheese, pricey varieties, squeaky curds, the moon’s composition, how cheese changes your brain chemistry, and the ultimate charcuterie board. Plus: holes and crystals and maggots, oh my! 

[Content warning: we discuss dairy and do make acknowledgments of animal rights concerns, and next week we discuss vegan options in more depth. However this episode and expert’s focus isn’t the ethics of dairy farming as a whole, but rather the process of cheesemaking. We do have a future episode planned about plant-based diets.]

Visit Kyra’s website and follow her on Instagram and LinkedIn

Donations went to the Cheese Culture Coalition and Team Up’s 2025 Building Schools in Kenya

More episode sources and links

Find more episodes you'll like at Ologies.com

Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes

Other episodes you may enjoy: Gastroegyptology (BREAD BAKING), Food Anthropology (FEASTS), Critical Ecology (SOCIAL SYSTEMS + ENVIRONMENT), Mammalogy (MAMMALS), Bisonology (BUFFALO), Zymology (BEER), Gustology (TASTE), Disgustology (REPULSION TO GROSS STUFF), Speleology (CAVES), FIELD TRIP: I Go France and Learn Weird France Stuff

Sponsors of Ologies

Transcripts and bleeped episodes

Become a patron of Ologies for as little as a buck a month

OlogiesMerch.com has hats, shirts, hoodies, totes!

Follow Ologies on Instagram and Bluesky

Follow Alie Ward on Instagram and TikTok

Editing by Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio Productions and Jake Chaffee

Managing Director: Susan Hale

Scheduling Producer: Noel Dilworth

Transcripts by Aveline Malek 

Website by Kelly R. Dwyer

Theme song by Nick Thorburn

Up next
Yesterday
Haunted Hydrology (SPOOKY LAKES) with Geo Rutherford
Mudbank bones. River wrecks. Salty seas. Pink ponds. Poison dust devils. Steamy streams.. It’s Haunted Hydrology with your favorite Spooky Lakes ambassador, the artist and author Geo Rutherford who is widely known as Geodesaurus. Geo covers the dark history of The Great Lakes, a ... Show More
1h 13m
Oct 1
Serpopsychology (WHAT’S CREEPY?) with Frank McAndrew
Are you creepy? How would you know? What’s “creepy” as opposed to scary or eerie? We talk to the pioneer of this research, Serpopsychologist, Dr. Frank McAndrew, a professor emeritus at Knox College. We chat: dates that give you the willies, Weary Willie the Clown, haunted dolls, ... Show More
1h 9m
Sep 24
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone
Storming the Bastille. Facing off with tanks. Canceling a streaming subscription. We’re talking protests, boycotts, insurrections, and demonstrations. Scholar, professor, and actual real life Revolutionologist Dr. Jack Goldstone lays out the whys – and the hows. What revolts have ... Show More
1h 30m
Recommended Episodes
Mar 2025
A Ridiculous History of Processed Cheese
Let's be honest: cheese is inherently weird. As humanity advanced, civilizations leveraged positively alchemical science to arrive at the perfect cheeseburger melt. In today's episode, Ben, Noel and Max explore the evolution of processed cheese -- the not-quite-cheese that change ... Show More
32m 21s
Aug 2024
What is up with RAW milk?
#193 In this episode of Chemistry for Your Life, hosts Melissa and Jam delve into the chemistry of milk, focusing on the differences between raw and pasteurized milk. They discuss the processes of pasteurization and homogenization, how they affect the nutritional content of milk, ... Show More
46m 11s
May 2025
170: The Shocking Truth About Dairy: Why are we *really* drinking milk?
Hi friends, happy Wednesday! As a country, America has always had a complicated relationship with dairy. One month we hate it, the next month, some weird cottage cheese recipe goes viral, and we’re all over it again. But here's something I thought was a little strange. You never ... Show More
54m 39s
Dec 2024
The Dish Awards 2024 with Nick and Angela, a cheese board and a negroni sbagliato
On the inaugural Dish Awards, Nick and Angela celebrate their favourite guests, moments and recipes of the year. Nick mixes a negroni sbagliato, while Angela assembles a delicious cheese board with No.1 French Blue D’Affinois cheese, No.1 Comté AOP, No.1 Cornish Quartz Extra Matu ... Show More
31m 40s
Feb 2025
UK AI & science-optimised pasta
Artificial intelligence is the big talking point of the week, with UK PM Sir Keir Starmer announcing a drive to unleash its full potential. It’s already being used in healthcare, but recent studies have exposed both strengths and weaknesses. We’re joined by Dr James Kinross, a su ... Show More
28m 21s
Jun 2025
Human Taste Test (with Katherine Blanford)
Bonus Episodes & Ad Free Episodes: https://bit.ly/4bUjAai Katherine Blanford joins Noel to discuss differences between the South and West Coast, the process of being reincarnated into a cigarette, and the best people to eat in an apocalypse. This episode is brought to you by Bett ... Show More
1h 1m
Dec 2024
Big Parma
Stuffed crust pizza. Grilled cheese burritos. How did so much cheese get into so many things? On today's episode, we peel back the curtain on the Dairy Industrial Complex — AKA Big Parma.  * VERY SPECIAL CREDITS On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story e ... Show More
40m 30s
Aug 29
Supplementary Material 36: Comedy Cults, Toxic Mould, and WW2 Revisionism
We risk contamination with toxic mould, endure distressing initiation rituals to a comedy cult, and ponder if the narratives we have received about the Nazis have enough nuance.The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (2 hours, 21 minutes).Join us at: https://www.patr ... Show More
45m 37s
Feb 2025
A Germ of Truth: The 263rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
In this week’s episode, we discuss the relationship between infectious and chronic disease, and between germ theory and terrain theory of disease. Pathogens are real, and exogenous treatments like antibiotics can kill them. The health of the body is affected by diet, exercise, st ... Show More
1h 56m