When people think of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, they often picture tweedy Oxford professors and beloved fantasy authors. But their writing wasn't drawn only from their bucolic days teaching at Oxford and walking in the English countryside; it had a darker, deeper backdrop: the trenches of World War I and the cataclysm of World War II. Lewis and Tolkien weren't just fantasy writers — they were war veterans, cultural critics, and men with firsthand knowledge of evil, heroism, and sacrifice.

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Joseph Loconte, returning to the show to discuss his latest book, The War for Middle Earth. We explore how both world wars shaped the perspectives of Tolkien and Lewis, found their way into works like The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia, and infused their literary masterpieces with moral weight, spiritual depth, and timeless themes of resistance, friendship, and redemption. We also talk about the legendary friendship between Tolkien and Lewis, the creation of the Inklings, and how the men demonstrated the countercultural power of imaginative storytelling.

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Tolkien books mentioned:
The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien
Beowulf translated by Tolkien
The Hobbit
The Lord of the Rings
Beren and Luthien
Letters from Father Christmas
Lewis books mentioned:
The Letters of C.S. Lewis
The Collected Poems of C.S. Lewis
The Pilgrim’s Regress
The Chronicles of Narnia
The Great Divorce
The Screwtape Letters
The Space Trilogy
The Four Loves
Mere Christianity
The Reading Life
Related books by other authors:
Tolkien and the Great War by John Garth
The Somme by Martin Gilbert
The Guns of August by Barbara Tuchman
The Future of an Illusion by Sigmund Freud
The Aeneid by Virgil
Phantastes by George MacDonald
The Vinland Sagas
The Iliad and The Odyssey by Homer
The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri
Le Morte d’Arthur by Thomas Malory

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