Jenna Free is a counselor who specializes in ADHD, and she doesn't teach it from a textbook, she lives it, having been diagnosed herself at 32. Her work zeroes in on the piece she says the field keeps missing: dysregulation. Through her ADHD regulation groups and her training for mental health professionals, she teaches a method built around regulating the nervous system, thoughts, and behaviors, and she's put it all into her bestselling book The Simple Guide to ADHD Regulation, a Toronto Star and Globe and Mail bestseller.

The core idea here reframes almost everything men think they know about ADHD. Jenna argues that most of what gets labeled ADHD is actually an ADHD brain stuck in chronic fight or flight, and that it's fixable. She and Larry get into what's happening in the brain during dysregulation, the four survival responses, why potential keeps you stuck, and how simply refusing to fight with reality can change your whole day. If you or your kids have ever felt like putting on socks is a full body assignment, this one explains why.

Timeline Summary

[1:58] – Getting diagnosed at 32 and finally making sense to herself

[3:28] – Four careers by 35, from marketing to modeling in South Africa to teaching

[9:14] – Two kids under a year and a half apart and max fight or flight

[9:57] – Your mess becomes your message

[10:16] – The full bio: the ADHD regulation method and a bestselling book

[13:16] – What's actually happening in an ADHD brain stuck in fight or flight

[14:43] – Why the fight or flight symptom list looks almost identical to the ADHD one

[15:49] – The socks story and how different life feels once you're regulated

[18:58] – Fight, flight, freeze, and fawn, and how each one shows up

[20:39] – Why your body can't tell a to-do list from a bear

[22:01] – Which survival response dominates, and whether gender or age matters

[24:41] – Why this work is hard for kids and lands better with bought-in adults

[25:28] – Hyperactive, inattentive, and combination types across the lifespan

[26:28] – Where regulation actually starts, and why buy-in comes first

[27:43] – Putting on your dysregulation goggles to see symptoms differently

[29:26] – Giving yourself permission to regulate when survival mode resists it

[32:44] – Physical regulation first: slowing down to signal safety to the body

[35:14] – Potential versus reality and the shoulds that pull you back into panic

[36:50] – The spilled box of gems and dropping the fight with reality in five seconds

[38:27] – Larry's disputed parking charge and staying calm while everyone else panicked

[43:12] – Do people with ADHD have less energy, or is it pouring onto the floor?

[45:13] – Why Jenna's calming tone regulates her own body in real time

[48:14] – How fawning and people pleasing trace back to the amygdala

5 Key Takeaways

It's Often Fight or Flight, Not Just ADHD — Many of the symptoms people write off as permanent ADHD traits, the overwhelm, paralysis, and procrastination, are actually a nervous system stuck in survival mode. That part is treatable.
Your Body Can't Tell a To-Do List From a Bear — Under chronic stress, blood flow leaves the prefrontal cortex so you can fight or run, which is exactly why you can't think clearly when you sit down to work.
Buy-In Comes Before Any Technique — Regulation work is uncomfortable because your system thinks its old patterns are keeping you alive. You have to genuinely want the change to push through the resistance.
Start by Physically Slowing Down — Walking instead of rushing, dropping your shoulders, and typing at a reasonable pace all signal safety to the body. Small shifts over time retrain the nervous system far better than fast, intense change.
Stop Fighting With Reality — Shoulds, what-ifs, and "this shshouldn't have happened" throw you straight back into panic. Naming what is real and asking "now what" is one of the fastest ways to calm the system down.

Links & Resources

Episode page and all links: https://thedadedge.com/1512
Dad Edge Day with the Arizona Cardinals (November 15, Cardinals vs Rams, State Farm Stadium): https://thedadedge.com/nfl

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