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Connect with Alexandra Conners on LinkedIn, and see what her team is building at wunderkind.co.

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Every martech platform seems to be buying up every other one right now, each promising to become the single tool that finally does everything. Jay Schwedelson gets Alex Conners of Wunderkind to pressure-test that idea, and her take is refreshingly blunt: the all-in-one promise is mostly a mirage, and your real edge was never sitting in the stack to begin with. What she says is actually driving results now might change how you look at your next renewal.

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Best Moments:

(02:20) Most brands use only about 30 percent of what their marketing tools can actually do

(03:46) Why a platform's new acquisition is really just negotiation leverage with your CFO

(06:04) The right martech pick has less to do with your industry than your team's skill set

(07:17) Customer acquisition costs jumped 222 percent and the buying journey keeps getting longer

(10:30) The average enterprise is quietly running 91 marketing tools, and the risk that creates

(12:05) A plain-English breakdown of what Wunderkind actually does with your anonymous site visitors