In this episode, Darrin sits down with Dr. Joy Karavedas to explore what it really means to develop leaders intentionally—and why that “tap on the shoulder” can be life-changing.

Joy shares her journey into leadership and how her research revealed a powerful pattern: nearly every leader can point to a moment when someone saw their potential before they did.

The conversation dives into:

The importance of intentionally building a leadership pipeline
Why performance alone isn’t enough to identify future leaders
The reality of the “messy middle” and how leaders grow through it
The role of reflection in leadership development—and why most leaders skip it
How to give emerging leaders space to practice, fail, and grow

Joy also introduces her TAP framework:

Trust – The foundation of leadership that must be earned daily
Authenticity – Knowing who you are as a leader and showing up with confidence
Performance – The skills and execution that can be developed over time

One of the biggest takeaways?

A pat on the back might feel good—but a tap on the shoulder can change someone’s life.

This episode is a powerful reminder that leadership development isn’t accidental—it’s intentional.

Connect with Dr. Karavedas - https://drkaravedas.com/

Sponsor Spotlight

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Let’s Connect

If you’re working to move from planning to execution—and want to ensure your team stays aligned and focused throughout the year—Darrin can help.

Through coaching, leadership retreats, and team development, he supports leaders in building clarity, alignment, and lasting impact.