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Oct 30
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Episode 45 - Mark Pearmain & Michael Ste...

Jason Buccheri
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In this conversation, Jason Buccheri hosts Michael Stevenson and Mark Pearmain to discuss the evolving landscape of education, focusing on the concept of human flourishing. They explore the importance of redefining educational purposes beyond mere employment, emphasizing the need for a holistic approach that includes emotional, ethical, and social competencies. The discussion also highlights the role of collective efforts in education, the integration of diverse worldviews, and the impact of AI on future learning environments. The speakers share insights on how education systems can adapt to better prepare students for a rapidly changing world, advocating for a collaborative and inclusive approach to learning.


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Timestamps:

[00:00:00] Cold Open – What If Education Isn’t About Productivity?
[00:00:47] Host Intro – AI, Automation & The Meaning Of Education
[00:01:41] Theme Overview – Reimagining Purpose & Human Flourishing
[00:03:10] Summit Mention – Canadian Education Leadership Summit
[00:03:58] Guest Check-In – London And Surrey, BC
[00:04:36] Michael Stevenson – OECD Role And Vision
[00:05:28] Mark Pearmain – Surrey School District Overview
[00:07:20] Personal Path – Why Education?
[00:07:25] Michael Stevenson – From BBC To OECD And The Ancient-Future Lens
[00:09:49] Mark Pearmain – Formative Teachers And Family Influence
[00:12:35] Shifts In Education – Post-COVID Perspective & BC’s Competency Curriculum
[00:16:50] Global Context – Groundswell For Change And Learning As A Way Of Being
[00:19:35] Collaboration – OECD And BC Connection At Whistler
[00:23:35] Defining Human Flourishing – Happiness, Meaning, Relationships & Accomplishment
[00:25:39] Critique – Education For Employment Vs. Education For Flourishing
[00:28:39] Balancing Basics – Foundational Skills Before Flourishing
[00:30:40] Individual And Collective Flourishing – Educating Beyond The Self
[00:34:58] Schools As Communities – Everyone’s Role In Student Success
[00:37:23] Student Voice – Agency In Learning And AI Ethics
[00:39:35] Four Worldviews – Indigenous, Pre-Modern, Modern, Post-Modern
[00:43:08] Truth & Reconciliation – Embedding Indigenous Perspectives In BC Education
[00:45:29] Healing & Acknowledgment – Intergenerational Trauma And Renewal
[00:48:46] Five Core Competencies – Ethical Competence And Acting In The World
[00:51:31] Adaptive Problem-Solving And Meaning-Making
[01:05:00] The Role Of AI – Harnessing Technology Without Losing Agency
[01:21:58] Practical Advice – Starting Small And Sustaining Change
[01:27:29] Reflections – The Humanistic Thread Of Education


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