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Sep 6
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Staring Down Ignoble Lies: The 293rd Evo...

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying
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Today we discuss RFK Jr. the CDC, autism and trans activism. Kennedy revealed this week that in 2002, the CDC destroyed data that showed that children who got the MMR vaccine before 36 months of age had far higher rates of autism than did those who get the vaccine later in life. An HHS report will soon be released that ties Tylenol use during pregnancy to autism—what does this tell us about past public health advice, safety and risk? How can we all become better at pattern recognition? Florida Surgeon General Joe Ladapo is moving away from vaccine mandates for all citizens, while the governors of the three West coast states are conflating “science” with “ideology” while pining for a Covid-era-style CDC. In trans land: comedy writer Graham Linehan was arrested for saying mean things on-line, while trans-activists are not arrested when they threaten to kick and punch those who don’t believe that men can become women. We explore the mental illness of trans-deluded people, and discuss Vivian Wilson, Elon Musk’s oldest son, who thinks he’s a girl.

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Mentioned in this episode:

RFK before Congress: https://x.com/wallstreetapes/status/1964154838830502080

WSJ on Tylenol in pregnancy: https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/rfk-jr-hhs-to-link-autism-to-tylenol-use-in-pregnancy-and-folate-deficiencies-e3acbb4c

Western Health Alliance: https://apps.oregon.gov/oregon-newsroom/OR/GOV/Posts/Post/oregon-washington-and-california-form-western-health-alliance

Doyle on Linehan arrest in UnHerd: https://unherd.com/2025/09/the-shameful-arrest-of-graham-linehan/

Punch TERFs: https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1963504508509593772

Good genetics: https://x.com/hazelappleyard_/status/1963315154277593109

Vivian Wilson in NY Mag: https://www.thecut.com/article/vivian-wilson-elon-musk-daughter-2025-fall-fashion-issue-cover-story.html

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