This week on the Leaning Into Leadership podcast, I sit down with Dr. Jen Schwanke, a seasoned educator, author, and deputy superintendent with nearly three decades of experience. Together, we explore the history of public education and why times of societal unrest so often result in schools being placed under the spotlight.

Dr. Schwanke shares insights from her doctoral research, her leadership journey, and her brand-new book, Trusted: Trust Pillars, Trust Killers, and the Secret to Successful Schools. We dig into:

Why schools feel under attack during turbulent times—and why this isn’t new.
How leaders can avoid the traps of denial, defensiveness, or despair when criticism comes.
The importance of being trust willing as well as trustworthy.
Why strong systems are essential for good people to thrive.
Practical advice for new principals handed the master keys for the first time.
Strategies for instructional leadership when you don’t feel like an expert in every content area.
How to build authentic trust with staff, parents, and students—and why curiosity beats judgment every time.

Whether you’re stepping into school leadership for the first time or looking to sharpen your ability to lead with trust and positivity, Dr. Schwanke’s wisdom will help you show up with courage, clarity, and relentless optimism.

📚 Learn more about Dr. Schwanke’s work and books: JenSchwanke.com

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Episode 231: Building Trust and Leading ...