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Jul 2025
1h 45m

E232: "No Greater Love": How 3 Opus Dei ...

Lila Rose
About this episode

When we hear the words of John 15:13, “No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends” most of us assume it’s a metaphor, not a literal call. But on June 18, that verse became a lived reality.


Three friends, Val Creus, Matt Schoenecker, and Matt Anthony lost their lives in an act of heroic brotherhood. When Val jumped into the swimming hole at Rattlesnake Falls and called for help, both Matts jumped in after him without hesitation. Today, we’re joined by their close friend and fellow Opus Dei member, Matt Bowman, who shares how these men were remarkable not just in their final sacrifice, but in the way they lived: humbly, joyfully, and always in service to others, drawing people closer to Christ. We also remember another quiet hero, diver Juan Heredia, who risked his own life to recover their bodies and bring some measure of peace to grieving families. Their story reminds us to live with purpose, to love without delay, and to lead others to the source of all love: Christ Himself.


Zephyr Institue: https://www.zephyr.org/

Juan's Angel Diver site: https://angelsrecoverydiveteam.org/


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00:00:00 - Intro

00:04:01 - Understanding Opus Dei

00:09:04 - Seven Weeks Coffee

00:10:01 - Is DaVinci Code Accurate?

00:12:53 - Response to Vatican II

00:16:27 - What happened in the accident?

00:29:16 - Hallow

00:30:06 - The Rescue Mission

00:36:58 - Covenant Eyes

00:38:02 - Who is Val?

01:00:43 - Matt Schoenecker

01:16:21 - Matt Anthony

01:32:52 - Life after Matts and Val

01:36:00 - Healthy Male Friendship

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