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Jun 18
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Bank Leaders on AI, Fraud & Trust – Mone...

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In this special episode of What the Fraud?, recorded at Money20/20 Europe in Amsterdam, we sit down with five senior leaders shaping the future of modern banking, payments, and risk. From AI-driven fraud to embedded finance, evolving identity threats, and shifting regulatory demands, we unpack how today’s banking and compliance leaders are building trust while continuing to innovate.

You’ll hear from:


  • Mitch Trehan, Chief Compliance Officer at Allica Bank, on designing a fraud-resilient lending experience for SMEs—without slowing down credit decisions.
  • Daniele Tonella, Chief Technology Officer at ING, on leveraging AI and cloud infrastructure to future-proof large-scale banking systems while keeping digital channels secure.
  • Katherine Yeung, Chief Risk & Compliance Officer at 10x Banking, on embedding compliance into the foundation of cloud-native banking, and how to stay agile in regulated environments.
  • David McHenry, Managing Director, Head of Global Treasury & Payments Advisory – UK at HSBC Innovation Bank, on the changing landscape of payments, liquidity, and fraud monitoring for high-growth businesses.
  • Lee McNabb, Head of Group Payment Strategy at NatWest, on the risks embedded finance introduces, and how payments strategy is evolving from cost center to growth engine.


Each guest offers a sharp, practical perspective on how financial institutions are modernizing without sacrificing security, speed, or trust.


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Mitch Trehan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchtrehan/ 

Daniele Tonella on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniele-tonella-6867023/ 

Katherine Yeung on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherine-yeung-a7b1786/ 

David McHenry on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidrmchenry/ 

Lee McNabb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-mcnabb-17953888/

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