In this eye-opening conversation, Kelly sits down with Thais Gibson, founder of The Personal Development School, to explore how your attachment style could be influencing everything from your leadership effectiveness to your emotional resilience and business growth.
With over 35,000 students across 107 countries and a background in neuroplasticity and subconscious reprogramming, Thais breaks down the four main attachment styles and reveals how understanding your subconscious wiring is the key to unlocking lasting transformation in every area of your life.
Whether you’re a CEO, team leader, or entrepreneur in a season of growth, this episode gives you the clarity and tools to expand your success from the inside out.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Why reprogramming your subconscious is essential to self-leadership and scaling your impact
How Thais turned a two-year waitlist into a global digital education platform
The 4 attachment styles (secure, anxious, dismissive avoidant, fearful avoidant) and how each one shows up at work and in business
Signs your attachment style may be sabotaging your success, boundaries, or risk-taking ability
Why high performers often carry invisible emotional patterns—and how to rewire them
How secure attachment creates better leadership, stronger relationships, and business longevity
The surprising link between your childhood conditioning and your ability to scale a company or build a high-performing team
Daily emotional habits that help anxious, avoidant, and fearful avoidant types create safety, trust, and confidence
Why burnout, people-pleasing, and emotional shutdown may be tied to unresolved subconscious programming
How to use this awareness to become a more present, peaceful, and purposeful version of yourself
TIMESTAMPS:
02:00 – Why most of our patterns are subconscious (and how to rewire them)
04:50 – What is your attachment style and why does it matter?
06:00 – Secure attachment: what it looks like and how it forms
07:45 – Anxious attachment in business: people-pleasing, fear of disapproval, and burnout
10:20 – Dismissive avoidant attachment: the hidden cost of hyper-independence
13:30 – Fearful avoidant attachment: the “entrepreneurial edge” and emotional volatility
17:45 – How to shift your subconscious programming for long-term success
RESOURCES:
Explore Thais’ courses and teachings: www.personaldevelopmentschool.com
Watch Thais on YouTube: The Personal Development School YouTube Channel
Learn your attachment style – FREE QUIZ!
Follow Thais Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepersonaldevelopmentschool
SUBSCRIBE TO THE KAIROS NEWSLETTER: Faith leadership strategies to bulletproof your business and life that are delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning. https://thekellyroach.com/kairosnewsletterorganic
Follow Kelly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kellyroachofficial/
Follow Kelly on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.roach.520/
The Kelly Roach Show is your business podcast that gives you quick, actionable trainings for business growth, sales growth, and leadership. Kelly teaches about the entrepreneurial mindset and how to leverage building an unstoppable team with high performance strategies for rapid and sustainable business growth.