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Feb 2025
48m 14s

Episode 25: Palestinians defiantly would...

Middle East Eye
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In this extended interview, Mustafa Barghouti, general secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative, reacts to the statements and plans and remarks of U.S. President Donald Trump, who has made it clear that his intention is for the U.S to “have” Gaza and to clear out the Palestinians so that it can be rebuilt.

Barghouti also speaks about how Israel has stepped up attacks on the West Bank, and how ethnic cleansing there has accelerated. He draws on the history of the conflict to show how Israel has always intended to ethnically cleanse historical Palestine completely. Despite this, Mustafa Barghouti remains defiant and says that Palestinians would rather “die”, than be forced to leave their homelands, again.


Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:55 reaction to Trump and King Abdullah presser

11:45 What do you know of the Arab response?

18:30 Gaza’s defiance

27:00 West Bank and prisoners

33:45 How much legitimacy has the PA lost?

38:15 Palestinian liberation connected to greater Arab liberation

42:00 Is there an ally in the new Syria?

45:30 Do you fear for your own life, final thoughts


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