logo
episode-header-image
Dec 2024
25m 30s

How Skims and On Create Cultural Relevan...

THE BUSINESS OF FASHION
About this episode

Many fashion brands are realising that operating across multiple cultural sectors is a business necessity. In our social feeds, fashion competes with music, film, and sports for our attention.


Learning how to tap into other cultural sectors is something that many fashion brands are trying to do, but few have done it better than this week’s guests.


At BoF VOICES 2024, BoF founder and CEO Imran AmedI spoke with Jens Grede, co-founder and CEO of Kim Kardashian’s Skims, the shapewear brand and David Allemann, co-founder and executive co-chairman of the Swiss sportswear company On, to learn how they’ve tapped into the cultural zeitgeist, especially at the growing intersection of sports and fashion.  



Key Insights: 


  • For both Grede and Allemann, the foundation of a successful brand lies in creating exceptional products. Grede emphasises the critical importance of innovation, crediting Skims’ success to years of fabric development before launching the brand. “Before a brand, there are products, and you can’t build a great brand without a great product,” he explains. Similarly, Allemann shared On’s origins, which began with a makeshift prototype crafted from a garden hose to test their signature “cloud tech” soles. 


  • Sports and fashion have become deeply interconnected, reflecting how cultural and personal identity have evolved. Allemann notes that, over the past 15 years, sportswear has transitioned from functional equipment to an extension of one’s personality, becoming a new uniform. “Because it becomes part of our personality, it’s elevated to a whole different level, and so in a sense, [sport] becomes fashion.” Athletes now use fashion as a platform to build their personal brands, with Grede describing it as “a superpower” that amplifies their influence beyond their sport. 


  • Tapping into culture is essential for brands looking to stay relevant and expand their influence. Grede describes building a brand as finding “a little part in this moment in popular culture,” which requires an understanding of the zeitgeist. For Skims, partnerships like their recent collaboration with Dolce & Gabbana push the brand into uncharted aesthetic territory while providing customers with something entirely new. On takes a similarly thoughtful approach, having turned Roger Federer from an ambassador into an investor. 


  • As brands grow, the decision to go public can be a significant milestone, but timing is critical. Grede acknowledges that Skims will eventually become a public company but stressed the importance of focusing on expansion and building away from the scrutiny of the public eye. Allemann shared advice from On’s IPO journey, describing the need to stay close to the customer: “On really tries to be very close to the consumer and be the brand that helps the explorers and the dreamers and probably even the rebels to ignite their spirit. I think that's what's really important right now.”


Additional Resources:


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Up next
Nov 21
Prada Group CEO Andrea Guerra on Fixing the Luxury Business Model
<p>Over the last two years, demand for luxury fashion has softened as aspirational shoppers have pulled back and consumer fatigue has crept in. Yet, Prada Group has continued to grow, by prioritising brand DNA, employing disciplined curation and creating strong connections to&nbs ... Show More
25m 44s
Nov 19
Can Fashion Still Meet Its Climate Promises?
<p>As COP30 gets underway in Belém, a port city on the edge of the Brazilian rainforest, the mood is sober. A decade after the Paris Agreement was adopted internationally to limit global warming, many of the world’s largest fashion companies have fallen short on emissions cuts — ... Show More
30m 26s
Nov 14
Amber Valletta: ‘Do What You Love. Serve a Higher Purpose.’
<p>Amber Valletta grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, spending time on her grandparents’ farm. Her childhood was defined by open fields, a freshwater creek and a simple rule from her mother: go outside and use your imagination.</p><br><p>At 15, a local modelling class set her on an unexp ... Show More
42m 22s
Recommended Episodes
May 2025
S06.EP08 - Making Brands Relevant: How to Connect Culture, Creativity & Commerce with Cyril Louis
In this episode of JUST Branding, we sit down with hybrid creative leader Cyril Louis who is Creative Partner at The Royals and the mind behind campaigns for Beats by Dre, EA Games, and Heineken to unpack how brands can become culturally relevant and commercially effective. We ex ... Show More
44m 28s
May 2025
How Fashion Brands Build Community in 2025
As inflation bites and politics polarise, the fashion industry in 2025 is facing unprecedented pressure to hold onto its customers. Brands are looking to community as a deeper and more emotional form of engagement. But building true community takes more than buzzwords. In this ep ... Show More
22m 49s
Jun 2024
Branding brilliance and crafting iconic identities at Koto, with G Torto
<p>What gives a brand its spark? That little bit of magic that no one else has? Is it even possible for a brand to be unique anymore? As the world becomes ever more connected, the art of branding has never been more critical or more challenging.</p> <p>This week, we are talking ... Show More
1h 4m
Oct 2024
creating a brand with soul with kes nielsen
ever wonder what makes a brand you love just hit? in this episode, sam & talia sit down with kes nielsen, founder of Braaand, to dive deep into what it means to create a brand with soul. kes shares her insights on how a brand’s identity goes far beyond visuals, touching on the em ... Show More
54m 17s
Sep 29
Julie Wainwright: Getting Real Real About Building a Billion-Dollar Business
Julie Wainwright is the visionary founder and past CEO of The RealReal, the luxury resale giant that disrupted the fashion industry and redefined what it means to build a billion-dollar brand. In her new book, Time to Get Real: How I Built a Billion Dollar Business that Rocked th ... Show More
1h 16m
Oct 3
The Dark Side of Marketing: Budgets, Procurement & Broken Creativity with Moadh Bukhash
What happens when one of the region’s top marketeers steps away from boardrooms to reveal the truths behind the industry? In this thought-provoking episode, Luca sits down with Moadh Bukhash—CMO of PureHealth, former CMO of Emirates NBD, and member of the renowned Bukhash family— ... Show More
1h 33m
Jan 2025
25 Years of Rodial: Revolutionizing Skincare and Complexion Innovation with Founder Maria Hatzistefanis
Rodial is a luxury beauty brand founded by Maria Hatzistefanis in 1999, a London-based entrepreneur and bestselling author. Driven by a vision to create targeted, results-driven products, she identified a gap in the market for skincare solutions that deliver both instant and long ... Show More
51m 33s
Jun 2025
S06.EP11 - Inside DixonBaxi: Building Brands That Matter with Simon Dixon
In this episode, we go inside the mind of Simon Dixon, co-founder of the global brand and design consultancy DixonBaxi. » Learn more at https://justcreative.com/podcast Known for shaping bold, human brands for some of the world’s most iconic companies, Simon shares how his team b ... Show More
44m 32s
Aug 22
6 Marketing Insights from Fashion to B2B Brands with Kevin Branscum, Senior Director of Brand Marketing at Typeform | Ep. 342
What do Michael Kors, Blue Nile, and Typeform have in common? More than you’d think. Daniel’s OUT, Tamara’s IN. She’s joined by Kevin Branscum, a brand leader who’s worked across fashion, luxury, and B2B SaaS. Together, they explore why the best brands aren’t built on features or ... Show More
36m 1s