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In this episode of The HR L&D Podcast, host Nick Day dives into the science of team development with Rob Shaw, Co-founder of Meta Team, and Andy Perkins, a seasoned leader in learning and development with 35+ years of experience.
Together, they unpack the secrets to building resilient, high-performing teams through a groundbreaking data-driven approach.
Discover how the Meta Team framework uses behavioral diagnostics to pinpoint team strengths, address blind spots, and foster habits that drive both adaptability and trust. Learn how to balance the inner game (trust, resilience, focus, and purpose) with the outer game (influencing, decision-making, agility, and adaptability) to maximize team potential in today's dynamic workplace.
🔥 What You'll Learn in This Episode:
This episode also explores the future of team development, the integration of AI in HR, and why tailored interventions outperform one-size-fits-all solutions.
For HR leaders, team managers, and anyone passionate about driving organizational excellence, this conversation is packed with actionable insights.
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Thanks for listening folks – I look forward to bringing you the next episode of the HR L&D Podcast real soon!
(00:00) Introduction
(02:21) The Importance of Team Dynamics
(05:02) The Biggest Challenges Team Leaders Face
(07:32) The Role of Team Development in Addressing Burnout
(09:40) Why Leadership Development Isn’t Enough
(11:00) Introducing the Meta Team Framework
(15:16) Addressing Root Causes of Team Challenges
(18:07) Building Trust to Enhance Team Performance
(23:56) How Purpose and Focus Shape Teams
(28:29) AI in Team Development: Opportunities and Limitations
(33:06) The Meta Team Diagnostic Process Explained
(39:30) Developing Adaptability and Resilience in Teams
(42:07) Retesting to Measure Progress Over Time
(45:32) Global Perspectives on Team Development
(48:08) Overcoming Fear Around Team Coaching