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Can Agile methodologies still deliver on their promises, or have they become victims of their own success? Discover the answer in our latest episode of "That Change Show" as we chat with Agile experts John Tanner, CEO of C4G Enterprises, and Quinton Cortell, founder of FAST Agile. With host Jason guiding the conversation, we explore Agile's journey from its grassroots beginnings to its current state, and whether it's time to return to its foundational principles. John shares his impressive career path from developer to an influential strategist in Agile transformations, while Quinton discusses his transformation from a skeptic to an advocate, leading to the creation of his Fluid Adaptive Scaling Technology.
Get ready to hear stories that illustrate the genuine impact of Agile on software development and team dynamics. We recount the early days when Agile was shared organically before formal certifications entered the scene. Learn how methodologies like XP, Scrum, and Kanban revolutionized processes and improved morale, and debate whether commercialization has dulled Agile's edge. Through personal anecdotes, our guests highlight how embracing Agile practices led to significant positive outcomes, creating more efficient and happier teams.
But it's not all smooth sailing. We tackle the misuse of Agile that has led to backlash, overwork, and resentment in many organizations. The episode also examines the challenge of measuring the impact of Agile coaches and the consequences of failing to do so. As we navigate the complexities of Agile in large enterprises, we discuss why tech giants like Amazon, Apple, and Google might be absent from Agile conferences and what that means for the future of the methodology. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation on reframing Agile measurement, embracing change, and staying true to Agile principles amidst evolving landscapes.
00:00 - today’s show
00:43 - intro to John Tanner
01:28 - intro Quinton Quartel
03:39 - intro to Jason
05:10 - Is agile dead?
05:53 - intro to Chris
07:27 - how has agile evolved?
15:14 - what’s the real problem?
23:45 - why are people saying agile is dead?
42:00 - bad system entry?
49:40 - do some orgs actually need it?
51:30 - Agile 2024 sessions
63:00 - wrap-up
They Write the Right Stuff
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3ownu8zlfbk7zbbjpqm3t/They-Write-the-Right-Stuff.pdf?rlkey=qlx432fhqfeg1w76883jjm4gx&e=2
John Tanner
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tannerjs/
CEO & Chief Strategist @ C4G Enterprises
Chris Shinkle
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisshinkle/
Director of Innovation at SEP
Quinton Quartel
https://www.linkedin.com/in/quintonquartel/
Founder of FAST
Jason Little is an internationally acclaimed speaker and author of Lean Change Management, Change Agility and Agile Transformation: 4 Steps to Organizational Transformation. That Change Show is a live show where the topics are inspired by Lean Change workshops and lean coffee sessions from around the world. Video versions on Youtube