Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers whe ... Show More
Sep 2025
How to Lead Teams Through Change
<p>Iterating has become the business norm—but project teams are struggling to keep up with the relentless pace of change. How can change management professionals and project leaders help? We discuss this with: </p><p>Sharon Casey, director, change management, Adobe, Austin, Texas ... Show More
23m 21s
Aug 2025
Don't Be a Statistic. Make Transformation Work.
Transformation isn’t a gamble—it’s science. Kristy Ellmer, a leader with BCG Transform, unpacks the research behind what really makes change work: involving employees in the journey, preparing for the “messy middle,” and building emotional and practical support into the process. ... Show More
22m 4s
Jul 2025
Leading Change with Confidence: HR’s Role in Organizational Transformation
Andy Biladeau, SHRM’s chief transformation officer, sits down with guest host Marjorie Morrison, SHRM’s executive in residence for mental health, to explore HR’s evolving role in organizational transformation. With change management being one of the top CHRO priorities for 2025, ... Show More
32m 26s
Oct 2024
Greg Larkin | Tackling Innovation Roadblocks
To survive over the long term, businesses must constantly innovate and transform. All too often, however, forces inside companies stifle this change. Greg Larkin has built a career as an internal disruptor. In his view, anyone who seeks to innovate from within, to transform a leg ... Show More
33m 54s
Oct 2025
Podcast 223: Beyond learning – Mobilising L&D for organisational change
Organisations face constant and increasingly complex change, making it critical to bring people along on the journey. But can L&D play a more proactive role in enabling successful transformation by fostering buy-in, anticipating resistance, and building change capability? How can ... Show More
32m 13s
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1889141/open_sms">Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know!</a></p><p>Well, it's been so long I actually forgot I already did episode 1 of season 3!</p><p>In this episode we talk about why ... Show More
