logo
episode-header-image
Oct 2024
50m 22s

The impossible dream of good workplace s...

The Verge
About this episode

I’m talking with my good friend David Pierce, Vergecast co-host and The Verge’s editor-at-large, about something he spends an ungodly amount of time thinking and writing about: software.


Scores of new workplace apps are cropping with clever metaphors to try to make us work differently. Sometimes that works… and sometimes it really, really doesn’t. And it feels like the addition of AI to the mix will accelerate the pace of experimentation here in pretty radical ways.



Links: 


  • Why software is eating the world | Wall Street Journal (2011)
  • Mailchimp CEO Rania Succar on why email makes sense for Intuit | The Verge
  • Why would anyone make a website in 2023? | The Verge
  • Wix CEO Avishai Abrahami isn’t worried AI will kill the web | The Verge
  • Figma CEO Dylan Field is optimistic about AI | The Verge
  • We don’t sell saddles here | Stewart Butterfield (2014)
  • The CEO of Zoom wants AI clones in meetings | The Verge
  • Dropbox CEO Drew Houston wants you to embrace AI | The Verge



Credits:


Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. This episode was edited by Xander Adams. Our supervising producer is Liam James.

The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Up next
Oct 6
Rivian CEO on CarPlay, Lidar, and affordable EVs
I’m Joanna Stern, the senior personal tech columnist at The Wall Street Journal, and this is my final Decoder episode filling in for Nilay while he’s out on parental leave. My guest today: Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe. This is RJ’s third time on the show, and it felt like the perfect f ... Show More
50m 38s
Oct 2
The good, the bad, and the future of AI agents
This is Hayden Field, senior AI reporter at The Verge and your Thursday episode guest host. Today, I’m talking with David Hershey, who leads the applied AI team at Anthropic. I wanted to have David on because earlier this week, Anthropic released a brand-new AI model called Claud ... Show More
46m 35s
Sep 29
Ford CEO Jim Farley on China, tariffs, and the quest for a $30,000 EV
This is Joanna Stern, senior personal technology columnist at The Wall Street Journal. I’m the last Monday guest host filling in for Nilay here on Decoder while he’s out on parental leave with his adorable new son, and I’m very excited to be talking today to Ford CEO Jim Farley. ... Show More
1h 3m
Recommended Episodes
Dec 2024
The Truth About AI in Marketing with Shelly Palmer
AI won't replace humans. But it will dramatically change how we work. And brands that don't commit to AI will eventually find themselves struggling to keep up with savvy competitors, according to tech expert Shelly Palmer. So what’s really at stake here? In this episode, Elena, A ... Show More
35m 53s
May 2024
Separating AI Hype from AI Hope
Is AI poised to solve all of humanity’s problems or are we headed for a tech-driven catastrophe?  In this episode of AI Knowhow, we dive into the polarizing world of AI hysteria to separate the hype from the hope.  Courtney, David, and Mohan break down where AI has been overhyped ... Show More
32m 36s
Sep 21
From managing people to managing AI: The leadership skills everyone needs now | Julie Zhuo (Facebook VP, Sundial CEO, The Making of a Manager author)
Julie Zhuo is the former VP and Head of Design at Facebook (now Meta), author of the bestselling book The Making of a Manager, and co-founder of Sundial, an AI-powered data analysis company. Also, my first-ever podcast guest over 3 years ago!In our conversation, we discuss:1. The ... Show More
1h 36m
Aug 31
How we restructured Airtable’s entire org for AI | Howie Liu (co-founder and CEO)
Howie Liu is the co-founder and CEO of Airtable, the no-code platform valued at around $12 billion. After a viral tweet declared “Airtable is dead” based on incorrect data, Howie led a radical transformation: reorganizing the entire company around AI, becoming an “IC CEO” who cod ... Show More
1h 40m
Jun 2024
The Cheat Code to AI Content with Roberto Nickson
Episode 9: How do you maintain trust and authenticity while exploring the world of AI content creation? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) are joined by AI enthusiast Roberto Nickson (https://x.com/rpnickson), a product designer and iO ... Show More
1h 4m
Jun 2024
AI Entrepreneur Matthew Berman On The Power of LLMs - "It blows my mind."
Episode 10: Are closed-source or open-source AI models the future of artificial intelligence? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/mreflow) and Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/NathanLands) delve into this question with guest Matthew Berman (https://x.com/MatthewBerman), a serial entrepreneur an ... Show More
53m 42s
Nov 2024
Becoming an AI PM | Aman Khan (Arize AI, ex-Spotify, Apple, Cruise)
Aman Khan is Director of Product at Arize AI, an observability company for AI engineers at companies like Uber, Instacart, and Discord. Previously he was an AI Product Manager at Spotify on the ML Platform team, enabling hundreds of engineers to build and ship products across the ... Show More
1h 17m
Sep 17
AI: Copilot or Job Killer? - An Interview With Eliman Dambell
Some CEOs brag about using AI to cut jobs. But there’s another way to see it.In this episode, I sit down with Eliman Dambell, co-founder of Savvio.ai and former London finance director turned crypto analyst. He brings a unique perspective on why “AI should be a copilot, not a rep ... Show More
31m 53s
Mar 2025
Insiders React: AI Voices Get TOO Real + NVIDIA’s Earnings Drama, Microsoft’s Sneaky AI Move, Alexa’s Big Update
Are you ready for AI that sounds indistinguishable from a human? The future is arriving faster than you might think. In this episode, Chris and Yaniv dive into the latest developments in AI, from NVIDIA's blockbuster earnings to Amazon's new AI-powered Alexa to eerily rea ... Show More
50m 3s