“They really sort of make you feel like it’s Christmas and Coachella at the same time.”
Aug 14
Zuckerberg’s Anti-Doom Fantasy + Finally an A.I. Detector That Works + A.I. Math
This week we’re talking about Mark Zuckerberg’s latest essay, “The Future Is for Everyone,” which outlines his positive new vision about the potential of A.I. But do we think it’s credible? Then, Pangram’s chief executive, Max Spero, joins us to talk about the breakout success of ... Show More
1h 3m
Aug 7
The White House’s Secret A.I. Rules + The State of Model Alignment With METR’s Chris Painter + The Final Hot Mess Express
This week, the White House announced a new framework for regulating A.I. models, but it isn’t letting the public read it. We break down what we know about the rules and what the implications are for the industry and A.I. safety as a whole. Then, yet another report details new inc ... Show More
1h 5m
Jun 2024
Apple and OpenAI make a deal
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss takeaways from WWDC, this week's gadget news, and Elon Musk dropping his lawsuit against OpenAI. Further reading: Apple and OpenAI aren’t paying each other yet, says Bloomberg MKBHD interviewed Tim Cook. Tim Cook is ‘n ... Show More
1h 37m
Feb 2025
Elon Musk: agent of chaos
On today's episode, once again, it's OpenAI and DOGE. And some other things! Nilay and David start the show by talking about Elon Musk's surprise bid to buy the nonprofit arm of OpenAI, along with the company's plans for new models and new rules for those models. After that, The ... Show More
1h 47m
Jun 2024
Elon gets paid, Apple's AI pop, OpenAI revenue rip, Macro debate & Inside Trump Fundraiser
(0:00) Bestie intros: bringing up the energy! (8:48) Trump fundraiser recap (23:16) Elon's comp package approved by shareholders (40:12) Apple announces "Apple Intelligence" and ChatGPT deal at WWDC (50:17) OpenAI reportedly hits a $3.4B revenue run rate (1:05:26) Macro debate: S ... Show More
1h 24m
Jul 2019
Big tech at Capitol Hill, Elon Musk's brain machine interface, and Macbook 2019 reviews
Nilay Patel invites a cavalry of experts from The Verge (Makena Kelly, Adi Robertson, Liz Lopatto, Dieter Bohn, and Paul Miller) to discuss the Big Tech hearings that took over Capitol Hill, Elon Musk's Neuralink brain machine interface, and the new Macbook reviews. Stories this ... Show More
1h 33m
Mar 2023
The swaggy AI Pope and Apple headset rumors
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss AI image generators getting better, Apple WWDC 2023 rumors, and the other big stories in tech this week. Further reading: The swagged-out pope is an AI fake — and an early glimpse of a new reality Another hurdle for AI ... Show More
1h 26m