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Jun 2024
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21: Ryan and Charlie: Growing Up Gay, Fa...

Fairly Odd Sisters
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Sarah’s brother Ryan Clifford joins the podcast with his husband Charlie Bird. Charlie is a clinical therapist, author of Without the Mask and Expanding the Borders of Zion, and former BYU mascot. Ryan and Charlie reveal some of Sarah’s childhood secrets, explain what it was like coming out, and their personal journeys finding happiness and each other. This ... Show More
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