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Dec 2023
1h 11m

266. How to Love Family When You’re Divi...

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Just in time for the holidays: adrienne maree brown and Autumn Brown join us for a heart-opening, mind-bending conversation about sisterhood, justice, family, and how to love ourselves and people with different values simultaneously. 


  • Why their family holidays used to end in explosions – and the strategy they used to transform family time into peaceful respites.


  • Their intentional practice for creating a more beautiful way of spending time together - including their weekly “Sister Check-ins.” 


  • What their mother did as children to protect their dignity, and what they are doing now to protect hers.


  • Their beautiful vision for the future – and invitation to all of us to go with them. 

For our conversation with adrienne, check out 239. Why Are We Never Satisfied? With adrienne maree brown

About adrienne: 

adrienne maree brown grows healing ideas in public through writing, music, and podcasts. adrienne has nurtured Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination and Transformative Justice as ideas, frameworks, networks and practices for transformation. adrienne’s work is informed by 25 years of social and environmental justice facilitation primarily supporting Black liberation. adrienne is the author/editor of Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing WorldsPleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling GoodGrievers; and Maroons.adrienne lives in Durham, NC.


TW: @adriennemaree

IG:@adriennemareebrown


About Autumn: 

Autumn Brown is a mother, organizer, theologian, artist, and facilitator. The youngest child of an interracial marriage, rooted in the complex lineages of counter-culturalism and the military industrial complex, Autumn is a queer, mixed-race Black woman who identifies closely with her African and European lineages, and a gifted facilitator who grounds her work in healing from the trauma of oppression. 

Autumn is a facilitator with the Anti-Oppression Resource & Training Alliance (AORTA), a worker-owned cooperative devoted to strengthening movements for social justice and a solidarity economy through political education, training, and planning. Prior to joining AORTA, Autumn served as the Executive Director of RECLAIM!, a non-profit that works to increase access to mental health support so that queer and trans youth may reclaim their lives from oppression in all its forms.

Autumn co-hosts the podcast "How to Survive the End of the World" with her sister, adrienne maree brown. She lives in Minneapolis with her three brilliant children.


IG:@autumnmeghanbrown

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