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Sep 2023
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Cruelty on Steroids: How We Talk to Each...

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About this episode

We fight hard for the things we believe in. But HOW we fight for those things causes more damage than we realize. 

 

Jameela Jamil is a lightning rod for criticism, but it’s not just how people treat her that she’s concerned about.

 

“The most punk thing I can do is move towards love and unity.” - Jameela Jamil

 

In this episode we cover: 

 

  • Our odd habit of dehumanizing each other in the name of “progress”
  • Do we believe, fundamentally, that human beings are allowed to change and grow? 
  • What kids learn when we attack each other on social media (or in the news)
  • Why vengeance - aka: cancel culture - isn’t going to help us get the world we want
  • Why you should try to make more mistakes

 

Looking for a creative exploration of grief? Check out the best selling Writing Your Grief course here.

“Most of our behavior on all political sides is coming from trauma and fear - it's not all just ignorance. We have to listen for that pain if we’re going to be effective.” - Jameela Jamil

 

Related episodes:

Book Bans, Grief, and Love: What Do These Have to Do With Social Movements? with Malkia Devich-Cyril

 

Why Do We Celebrate Trauma (aka: Resilience)? with Dr. Gabor Maté

 

Follow our show on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok @refugeingrief and @itsokpod on TikTok. Visit refugeingrief.com for resources & courses



About our guest:

Jameela Jamil is an actress, advocate, and podcast host. You’ve seen her in The Good Place, She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, and Legendary, and all over social media commenting on the odd things we do to ourselves and each other. Follow her on IG @jameelajamil, and listen to her podcast I Weigh.

 

About Megan: 

Psychotherapist Megan Devine is one of today’s leading experts on grief, from life-altering losses to the everyday grief that we don’t call grief. Get the best-selling book on grief in over a decade, It’s Ok that You’re Not OK, wherever you get books. Find Megan @refugeingrief

 

Additional resources:

Want to talk with Megan directly? Join our patreon community for live monthly Q&A grief clinics: your questions, answered. Want to speak to her privately? Apply for a 1:1 grief consultation here

 

Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s OK That You're Not OK and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed

 

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