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Sep 2023
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#84 - Abi Noda // Co-Creator of the DevE...

Tobias Schlottke - alphalist CTO Podcast
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DX: The Developer Metrics that Unlock Developer Productivity

Find out the best way to measure Developer Experience 🧑‍💻in a way that truly enables ⚡ your developers (i.e. Developer Productivity) in this CTO podcast with Abi Noda - co-creator of the DevEx Framework and founder of Pull Panda. For years Abi has been on a quest to discover what developer metrics are the key to happier and more productive developers. He tried PR Analytics (he created Pull Panda🐼 - acquired by GitHub) and DORA, before teaming up with other Developer Productivity researchers 🧑‍🔬 to create a new framework which focuses on improving developer experience (DevEx) to improve productivity.

Listen to find out:

  • Why do companies measure Developer Productivity? 🤷(from both CTO and developer perspective)
  • How to survey your developers? (Sampling, Frequency and Length)📝
  • How DORA is done wrong in most companies
  • Why he prefers bootstrapping -🥾 but got a unique type of funding for his 4th company.

Listen here TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction 05:09 His Bootstrapping Inspiration 06:29 When investment is good 09:07 Why measure developer productivity? 13:28 Pull Analytics Approach 16:47 How it backfired at GitHub 17:13 Companies Misuse of Data 19:01 Why DORA didn’t work 20:40 'Shiny New Object Syndrome' 22:10 The right and wrong way to do DORA 24:39 How Developer Metrics have Evolved 33:28 Small Teams and Measuring DX 34:32 Measuring DX in larger companies 36:09 Creating a survey (frequency, length, and sampling) 41:21 Honesty in survey responses 43:48 Tips for getting started

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