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Aug 2023
32m 32s

When our phones are just phones with Kai...

Guy Raz | Wondery
About this episode
Most of us are dependent on our smartphones. In fact, Americans spend an average of three hours a day on these devices — devices that only came into existence relatively recently. Designers Kai Tang and Joe Hollier have long believed that it’s not normal for humans to be so attached to their phones. So they launched their own company in 2014 to create an alt ... Show More
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