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Josh explains that to survive the next century or two – to navigate our existential threats – all of us will have to become informed and involved. It will take a movement that gets behind science done right to make it through the Great Filter. (Original score by Point Lobo.) 

Interviewees: Toby Ord, Oxford University philosopher; Sebastian Farquahar, Oxford University philosopher

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