logo
episode-header-image
Jun 2021
17m 28s

Noisy decision making

Bbc World Service
About this episode

The Nobel prize-winning economist and professor of psychology Daniel Kahneman focuses his latest research on the high cost of inconsistent decision making. In Noise, co-authored with Oliver Sibony and Cass R Sunstein, he looks at why humans can be so unreliable, and what can be done about it. He tells Andrew Marr that people working in the same job often make wildly different judgements, influenced by factors like their current mood, when they last ate, even the weather. He argues that ‘noise’ is distinct from bias and has been neglected by organisations and businesses.

Gillian Tett is editor-at-large for the Financial Times and is also focused on transforming the world of business. But whereas Kahneman uses the methods of psychology, Tett argues for anthropology. For over a century anthropologists have immersed themselves in unfamiliar cultures, studying the hidden rituals at play. In her book Anthro-Vision, Tett uses similar techniques to reveal the underlying structures and human behaviour in our modern world – from Amazon warehouses to Silicon Valley to City trading floors.

Ann Cairns is the executive vice chair of Mastercard, which has hundreds of offices worldwide. She explores how psychology and anthropology can help to manage the company’s fortunes and employees through times of flux and change. Cairns started out as a research scientist before developing an interest in offshore engineering, becoming the first woman qualified to work offshore in Britain. She moved into banking in the late 1980s and joined Mastercard in 2011.

This programme is excerpted from Radio 4's Start The Week with Andrew Marr: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000w4nb

(Picture credit: Shannon Fagan via Getty Creative)

Up next
Yesterday
The impact of 'thirsty' data centres
We're in the US state of Georgia, where huge data centres need water to keep cool. But how is this need for cloud storage and AI capability affecting local residents and the environment?Presenter: Michelle Fleury Producer: Nathalie Jimenez(Image: Georgia resident Beverly Morris l ... Show More
17m 50s
Jul 8
Does university still get you a well-paid job?
Graduates are facing one of the toughest jobs markets in decades. We hear from students in India, the US and UK about whether they feel a university or college degree is worth it as we discuss the cost of attending university around the world and what your job prospects might be ... Show More
17m 27s
Jul 7
Returning to Ukraine?
The UN estimates that nearly seven million Ukrainians have left their home country since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022. Many have set up businesses in their new country - around 90,000 of those in Poland. We hear about the challenges they’ve faced, and the sectors ... Show More
17m 30s
Recommended Episodes
May 2022
Noisy Decisions
Nobel memorial prize winner Daniel Kahneman is one of the world’s most famous psychologists, known particularly for his work identifying the role of cognitive bias in everyday decision making. In this edition of More or Less he talks to Tim Harford about his latest book, Noise - ... Show More
8m 58s
Oct 2022
4 Business Ideas That Changed the World: Scientific Management
In 1878, a machinist at a Pennsylvania steelworks noticed that his crew was producing much less than he thought they could. With stopwatches and time-motion studies, Frederick Winslow Taylor ran experiments to find the optimal way to make the most steel with lower labor costs. It ... Show More
46m 17s
Jan 2024
BOM - Noise by Daniel Kahneman
Our book this month is called “Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgement” by Daniel Kahneman, Olivier Sibony, and Cass Sunstein. Daniel Kahneman is an author, psychologist and economist notable for his work on hedonic psychology, psychology of judgment and decision-making. He is also know ... Show More
7m 59s
Jun 2022
Silencing the ‘Noise’ Behind Bad Corporate Decisionmaking
Much of the appeal of McDonald’s comes from the chain’s consistency. A cheeseburger in the US or a McSpicy Chicken in India should taste the same every time. But what if a business had wildly different outcomes depending on which leader was making decisions? Renowned psychologist ... Show More
27m 5s
Mar 2022
75 - Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy w/Melina Palmer
Melina Palmer is founder and CEO of The Brainy Business, which provides behavioral economics consulting to businesses of all sizes from around the world.  Her podcast, The Brainy Business: Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy, has downloads in over 170 countries and is ... Show More
41m 20s
Dec 2017
Adam Robinson - The Power of the (Unconscious) Mind
Tribe of Mentors is a new short-form podcast from bestselling author and early-stage investor, Tim Ferriss. This episode features Adam Robinson, who has made a lifelong study of outflanking and outsmarting the competition. He is a rated chess master who was awarded a Life Title b ... Show More
32m 41s
May 2024
397. Exploring Behavioral Economics with Jeff Kreisler of JP Morgan Chase
In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, host Melina Palmer welcomes Jeff Kreisler, Head of Behavioral Science at JPMorgan Chase and celebrated author. Dive into Jeff's fascinating journey from lawyer and stand-up comedian to a leading expert in behavioral science, discove ... Show More
43m 10s
Jul 2020
Finance
Traders and finance: Daniel Beunza - Associate Professor in the Cass Business School at City, University of London, talks to Laurie Taylor about his study of a Wall Street derivatives-trading room. In particular, he explores how the extensive use of financial models and trading t ... Show More
27m 45s
May 2021
Why Smart People (Sometimes) Make Bad Decisions
Daniel Kahneman, Nobel Prize winner and emeritus professor at Princeton University, and Olivier Sibony, professor of strategy at HEC, say that bias isn't the only thing that prevents people and organizations from making good choices. We’re also susceptible to something they call ... Show More
26m 59s