The BMI, dealing with fatphobia in a doctor's office, and how to have good-faith conversations - all things author, podcaster, and activist Aubrey Gordon (aka @YrFatFriend) discusses with Jameela in this week's episode. They discuss how to talk to people with opposing ideas to yours, her background in grassroots activism, the racist history of the BMI, how medicine is prejudiced against fat people, why you shouldn't yell "encouraging things" at your fat friends as they exercise, and her new book: What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat, which is out now!