He's been on our screens in five different decades, but Phillip Schofield can still surprise us. In this podcast exclusive, Fearne chats to Phillip about his extraordinary life on camera, his continued fear of singing, and the mental loops he trapped himself in as he came to terms with his sexualty.

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