Julie Zhuo, Facebook’s VP of product design, started at the company as its first intern and became a manager at the age of 25. Like many first-time bosses, she made many missteps and acted how she thought managers were supposed to act. Eventually, she grew to find joy in the role and today she leads hundreds of people. She says that becoming a great manager ... Show More
Apr 2019
The Making of a Manager with Julie Zhuo
Congratulations, you're a manager! After you pop the champagne, accept the shiny new title, and step into this thrilling next chapter of your career, the truth descends like a fog: you don't really know what you're doing.That's exactly how our latest guest, Julie Zhuo, felt when ... Show More
36m 10s
Sep 2025
From managing people to managing AI: The leadership skills everyone needs now | Julie Zhuo (Facebook VP, Sundial CEO, The Making of a Manager author)
Julie Zhuo is the former VP and Head of Design at Facebook (now Meta), author of the bestselling book The Making of a Manager, and co-founder of Sundial, an AI-powered data analysis company. Also, my first-ever podcast guest over 3 years ago!In our conversation, we discuss:1. The ... Show More
1h 36m
Feb 2021
Founder as a first time manager - what are the major challenges? By Simon Gong
<p>Simon Gong, Senior Manager, Capacity Engineering & Analysis at Facebook talks about startup founders being the first time team managers. We spoke about the major problems that they face as team managers, how they can prepare themselves for what's coming up and how to solve ... Show More
22m 48s
Dec 2023
Managing My Manager (Help!)
During a recent Managing Up presentation, Mary received some questions about dealing with a variety of bosses. She thought it would be fun to get Chris’ input on them, too!Tune into this week’s episode to learn how to work with an impulsive boss, ask for help when you’re spread t ... Show More
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