Dan Trueman, CEO of Nostos, joins this bonus episode to discuss why the traditional boundaries between cyber, political violence and other crisis risks are becoming increasingly artificial. The episode explores how malicious actors can move between cyber attack, sabotage and physical violence, while insurance products remain divided into separate silos. Trueman also explains how a multi-class approach to crisis management, combined with better data, technology and claims response, could change the way insurers protect clients against an increasingly interconnected threat landscape. That's why it's the perfect crossover between this podcast and its new sister show, The Cyber Insurance Podcast.