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Anyone who thinks libido only declines after menopause should listen to this interview.
Kimberly is a sexological bodyworker, Somatic Experiencing practitioner, and author of The Fourth Trimester, Call of the Wild, and the forthcoming Erotic Seasons, and she has worked with women across birth, postpartum, and menopause long enough to call the standard midlife story out as incomplete.
I open with Marion Woodman’s map of a woman’s life, which folds maiden and mother into one phase and places a virgin stage before the crone. The virgin, in this framing, is a woman whole unto herself, and it is the stage most of us are hitting around midlife without any language for what is happening.
Kimberly describes moving through menopause without hormone therapy, tracking forty-eight so-called symptoms, and what two years on the other side of it has done to her libido and her sense of self. She also talks about the sexual revolution some women experience as they enter menopause, and the grief nobody warns you about.
Her erotic awakening involved a photographer in Rio and a shot of cachaça she turned down, then wished she hadn’t. Why she did it, and what it unlocked, is a story worth hearing in her own words.
You’ll learn:
[0:00] Introduction
[6:19] Marion Woodman and the forgotten virgin stage of a woman’s life
[10:34] Why you can’t be a crone until you’ve lived seventy years
[14:40] Walking the virgin stage single versus coupled
[17:59] Moving through menopause without any hormone therapy
[24:50] Aliveness as the backdrop for every fracture and rupture
[28:38] Our particular defenses against feeling good
[32:57] Writing past trauma culture without making women victims
[38:27] Kimberly’s erotic awakening and the nude photo
[46:43] The messiness and rawness that is also erotic life
[49:13] Being overtaken by Erotic Seasons and choosing aliveness over perfection
[52:39] Choosing what you genuinely love over what’s good for you
[1:00:51] Everything always works out as a different access to life
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Resources Mentioned:
Mothering and Daughtering by Sil Reynolds and Eliza Reynolds | Book
Red Hot & Holy by Sera Beak | Book
Slow Sex by Nicole Daedone | Book
Proud Flesh by Catherine Simone Gray | Book
Stephen Jenkinson - Orphan Wisdom | Website
Kimberly's new book, Erotic Seasons, is out November 17th here.
Find more from Kimberly:
Kimberly Ann Johnson | Website | Events | Books
Sex Birth Trauma Podcast | Website
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