Forget celebrities running around the Highlands... come back to the 16th century Tudor court when being a traitor meant literally losing your head.
Joining Kate today is Tudor historian and author Nicola Tallis, to expose the ultimate Tudor traitor: Thomas Cromwell.
Why did he work so hard to make Anne Boleyn queen only to orchestrate the plot to kill her? How involved was Henry VIII, really? And what happened that meant Cromwell was eventually betrayed?
This podcast was edited by Tim Arstall. The producer was Stuart Beckwith. The senior producer was Freddy Chick.
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