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David Rutherford says presidents from Woodrow Wilson to Lyndon Johnson promised to keep America out of war, and then the country went to war anyway. In this solo episode, David, who says he spent much of his adult life in special operations and intelligence work, walks through seven warning signs he sees in the years before America's wars, and says he sees them again today. He says he is not predicting a war and that his list is not a definitive way to read history. He wants to give listeners more context for their own critical thinking.

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What you get:

  • David's account of the broken "no war" promises from Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt and Johnson.
  • A plain-language look at The Fourth Turning, the 1997 book by William Strauss and Neil Howe that David says sparked this episode.
  • Seven signs, each tied to history: World War I, World War II, Korea, September 11, and the present day.
  • David's view that the U.S. is already at war with Iran, backing Ukraine against Russia, and under economic strain at home.
  • What David says listeners can do: strengthen family and community, get offline, and push for in-person paper ballots.


0:00 Cold open
0:39 Presidents promised no war, then war came
3:30 The Fourth Turning and how the seven signs came together
8:09 Sign 1: The enemy tells us what it plans (WWI, Pearl Harbor, 9/11)
20:56 Sign 2: Adversaries link up (Nazi-Soviet pact, BRICS)
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29:19 Signs 3 and 4: Unclear deterrence and economic warfare
42:48 Signs 5 and 6: Sea lanes and political violence at home
49:06 Sign 7 and the three wars
54:20 What can we do?

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