AI Futures Project executive director Daniel Kokotajlo joins Sean for a detailed debate over whether rapidly advancing artificial intelligence could eventually surpass human control. Kokotajlo warns about recursively self-improving AI and the concentration of power that could accompany superintelligence, while Sean presses him on corporate motives, government regulation and whether any agreement with China could realistically be trusted. The conversation explores both AI’s potential benefits and the possibility that fears of catastrophe are being amplified by political and commercial interests.
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