For 15 years I've been trying to figure out how to stem the tide of suicides taking my teammates — and today's guest is on the front line of that fight. Jonathan Dickinson is the CEO and co-founder of Ambio Life Sciences, the world's leading ibogaine clinic, and this conversation gave me more genuine hope than anything I've encountered.
What you'll hear:
• David breaks down why he calls this the most meaningful episode in show history
• Jonathan explains the Stanford study published in Nature Medicine — and the 88% reduction in PTSD symptoms
• Why the "signature wound" of the GWOT era was brain damage misread as PTSD
• What ibogaine actually restores: "a choice where you didn't have a choice before"
• How Ambio protects a sacred Gabonese tradition while scaling from 4 patients a week to 40
• The April 2026 executive order that moved this medicine from the underground to the White House
Jonathan Dickinson is a Mexico-licensed psychologist with 15+ years working with ibogaine in clinical and ceremonial contexts. His book, "Ibogaine and the Bicameral Mind," releases September 8 — preorder at jonathandickinson.ca.
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