In this episode, Breht speaks with his guests Pavin and Jennifer Marley from Total Sovereignty Working Group about George Manuel's Fourth World theory and the Indigenous Marxist traditions of Howard Adams and Lee Maracle. Together, they examine the conflict between land as capitalist property and land as a living relationship; the formation of colonial-racial capitalism; and the limitations of state-recognized self-government, "Red capitalism," and settler socialism. They also explore the tension between Indigenous self-determination as a transitional stage toward universal socialism and as the permanent reconstruction of Indigenous nationhood, territorial authority, and collective responsibility, as well as Maracle's insistence that decolonization must include feminism, rematriation, and the restoration of Indigenous women's governing power. Ultimately, the conversation asks what it would mean to abolish capitalism and settler colonialism together—and to create forms of collective life grounded in reciprocity, land, care, and genuine self-determination.
Total Sovereignty Working Group is a Native focus group dedicated to building a strategy for winning back our land and caring for our nations. Check out their work HERE
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